Just faidin away!
Mine is with that bastard Nick Smith and his artificial ACC taxes on motorcycles and diesel utes etc. - May he burn in hell the useless prick!Originally Posted by 1billyboy
He forced me to prematurely retire as an active motorcyclist! - What bigger crime can he inflict upon his fellow man - AND he's ugly!
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- 63 years active licensed motorcycle lifestyle "OVER"!
- But - new knee, new (reconditioned) heart and Lotto, I may be back yet!
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Bored Room
I'd like to thank Robert Muldoon and Roger Douglas for giving me the motivation to get on a plane to Sydney where I purchased my first Ducati, BMW,
Stahlwille tools ,pub rock and decent cricket matches.
$14 PH AU in 1986 bought you a lot more than the paltry $10 on offer here. ( yeah NZ really is a low wage economy)
I don't know why the media is making such a big deal about Winston Peters....we've seen it all before and its his last waltz as at 73 he won't be running New
Zealand Third for much longer.
DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.
Royal Enfield user
Ya half arsed burnt face man...I'd like to thank Robert Muldoon and Roger Douglas for giving me the motivation to get on a plane to Sydney where I purchased my first Ducati, BMW,
Stahlwille tools ,pub rock and decent cricket matches.
$14 PH AU in 1986 bought you a lot more than the paltry $10 on offer here. ( yeah NZ really is a low wage economy)
I don't know why the media is making such a big deal about Winston Peters....we've seen it all before and its his last waltz as at 73 he won't be running New
Zealand Third for much longer.
O fucked of to blighty where I worked for honda , bought snap on tools and. Regretted it ,,,,then bought shallwolle. Fk of spell check o ain't going to correct it a forth time
Now in Japan I'm semi retirement
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"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
Low personal B.M.E.P.
Listened to that in a mates workshop. Part way in, his dad starts carting in crates of empty beer bottles...
When asked why, the answer was "Going to have to make a LOT more homebrew".....
In the context of the times, it was necessary.
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
I wonder if Winston's negotiations are progressing well today?
Remember last time he held the country to ransom and it took around 6 weeks to get it all sorted out?
Yes, that time when he stated there would be no "baubles of power", yet he ended up as foreign minister?
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
Forum whore
Yep, a crap system.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11929786
Just faidin away!
Exactly - the government is decided by the politicians and they are dependant upon and loyal to each other - forget about the wishes of the electorate!
Less corrupt people for the bankers to focus on and control in order for them to continue the real business of governing without interruption behind the scenes!
Geriatric hoon
It may be different now, he has the recent example of the Maori party to show him that he should maybe keep some distance between NZ First and National in a coalition. Then again, two thirds of his NZ First party members want him to go with Labour/Greens.
Guess we'll find out soon if it is actually NZ First or just the Winston Peters party?
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Bogeyman
Obviously nothing to do with proportional representation as advertised.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Geriatric hoon
It isn't supposed to be fully proportional, but it is working just as intended. I love it!Obviously nothing to do with proportional representation as advertised.
The tail can only wag the dog if the dog lets it.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Bogeyman
It was sold as proportional representation. Nobody expected it to be fully proportional, just more so, and nobody expected it to potentially put the party with the most votes out of contention either.
The whole "most people voted against National" stance is transparently pathetic, on that basis Labor holds no mandate whatsoever, even more voted against the greens and almost everyone voted against Winston first.
The contention that some sort of mash-up of policy between minor parties represents any sort of consensus, or in fact anything remotely like what the majority of voters want is also clearly just plain wrong, to claim that's the intention of the voters is ridiculous.
So the party least representing the election results is now effectively in power, and no matter what Whinston decides absolutely nobody will have voted for it.
It's a fucking absurd system.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Geriatric hoon
Nobody except anybody who paid attention?Whichever way it goes people will be upset, not because there's anything wrong with the system, just that the outome didn't go their way.
Me? It isn't likely that either of the options would be a total disaster so I will be relaxed whichever.
Of course there's also the third option but that is unlikely this time.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
Highway Biker
As there is no clear mandate after counting of special votes maybe another election with NO media input from the parties rather than journalists viewpoints.
Low personal B.M.E.P.
Don't expect to see a clear winner as in one party getting over 50% of the seats ever again. What you will see, regardless of which way Winston goes is a coalition which in total has more than 50% of the votes cast. By definition that is a government of the majority.
To me it's surprising just how many people still expect a first past the post result.
Whether we got STV or PR the outcome would still have been coalitions.
I suspect that if we'd still had FPP, we'd have had a couple of govenments so far with fragile majorities which possibly wouldn't have gone full term.
Bogeyman
Not at all, if Labour had won 20% more votes than National I'd be expecting them to be involved in a new govt.Nobody except anybody who paid attention?
But they didn't.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
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