The 2017 Election Thread

[Graystone]

They do and they have. Nothing about my questions violate that.

Which suggests there is something deeper underlining it.

But let's test this with a simple question:

Do you believe that if we grant all the opportunities that you are presuming Women lack, that we would see equal (or near equal) representation?



I've covered this, but if it makes you happy: A Penis went into a Vagina and Ejaculated, without use of a Condom, where a child was not wanted. Given the plethora of methods and ways of contraception that are available - that's irresponsible.

As for Male PMs getting the Snip - sure, when they suffer all of the same effects of Pregnancy that women do, we can talk about it.



Sometimes the difference is merely popular opinion and Time...



Not if you are pointing out some of the differences between the Genders that is taboo to discuss.



And that's it - right there.

You can't accept that there are differences, because it is a complete rebuttal to the underlying idea that drives your post. So just ignore the actual data, call me a Sexist and claim some form of faux-moral victory.



Except you've missed the key difference between the 2 statements:

Observation of Reality: That Maori are over-represented in the Prison population and so there are things which may uniquely effect Maoris as an Ethnic group (such as a possible higher occurence of the CDH13 gene or the MAOA-L Gene)
Racist Statement: Maori makeup the majority of Prisoners therefore all Maori are criminals.

You are trying to conflate the 2.

So lets let our PM do her job without all this sexist hullabaloo.

Don't conflate societal bias with equal opportunities, we would not see equal representation with equal opportunities, but we would see equal performance within such representations. If we removed societal bias we would see equal representation as well.

Look around, at this time yours is certainly not the popular opinion, go back 30-50 years and you'd have more luck. Meanwhile, society is progressing forward on a more enlightened path.

Side effects of pregnancy? you make that sound like a sure thing, that is certain to affect thee PMs performance. Lets skip down to your 'observation of reality', your statement about women's side affects clearly aligns with the statement you classed as racist, instead of what you describe as an observation of reality. That's why we don't need to post data, and that's why your sexist drivel is just that, you so are blinded by your sexism that you can't interpret the data you post in an unbiased way.

[Ocean1]

So lets let our PM do her job without all this sexist hullabaloo.

Don't conflate societal bias with equal opportunities, we would not see equal representation with equal opportunities, but we would see equal performance within such representations. If we removed societal bias we would see equal representation as well.

Look around, at this time yours is certainly not the popular opinion, go back 30-50 years and you'd have more luck. Meanwhile, society is progressing forward on a more enlightened path.

Side effects of pregnancy? you make that sound like a sure thing, that is certain to affect thee PMs performance. Lets skip down to your 'observation of reality', your statement about women's side affects clearly aligns with the statement you classed as racist, instead of what you describe as an observation of reality. That's why we don't need to post data, and that's why your sexist drivel is just that, you so are blinded by your sexism that you can't interpret the data you post in an unbiased way.

So, how many Jacinda dolls have you knocked out so far?

[Graystone]

So, how many Jacinda dolls have you knocked out so far?

One less than your face, old man.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The point about the IQ comment had multiple reasons:

1: Pointing out a measurable difference in the sexes that is taboo to voice

Do you disagree that at the extremes of Intelligence, the ratio of Males to Females gets skewed heavily towards Men? If you agree with this, then feel free to retract all the name calling and strawmen. If you disagree with this - Post up some form of study as a rebuttal - as I said, I'm all ears (well, eyes.).



?

Check out this thick Bitch!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-2...e-year/9363206

[Grumph]

I'm married with Kids...

May you be left in the care of a daughter in your old age.....

[Brian d marge]

Works .... I tried it ....haven't spoken to myself all morning

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[Ocean1]

One less than your face, old man.

Maybe you should try it. The womanfolk tell me knitting's great for diverting some of those PMS symptoms you're displaying.

[TheDemonLord]

You seem to be the only person here holding the view that the child 'was not wanted'.

Really...

Mate - if you listen to what was said ... Jacinda and Clarke were told they would need medical help to get pregnant (probably means IVF or alternatives) - so they parked a family while she followed her career.

Parking a family tends to imply that children at that point in time aren't wanted.

[ellipsis]

...wankfuck...

[TheDemonLord]

So lets let our PM do her job without all this sexist hullabaloo.

I totally forgot about that time I stormed the houses of Parliment and demanded her resignation...

Oh wait, no I didn't - so I'm not stopping her from doing her job....

Don't conflate societal bias with equal opportunities, we would not see equal representation with equal opportunities, but we would see equal performance within such representations. If we removed societal bias we would see equal representation as well.

But equal representation would require that Women make the same choices as Men yes? As in they would choose the same career fields yes?

And I even said that was your underlying premise:

Your basic premise, is that given the same opportunity, Men and Women will make the same choices and that there is no difference between the sexes in terms of character traits.

But then you said emphatically:

That is not my premise at all. Something something strawman, something something losing the debate? My 'premise' is simply that men and women should be given the same oppourtunities.

So which is it? Either I was correct all along about the foundation of your arguments (and I wasn't strawmanning you at all) or you are confused.

Look around, at this time yours is certainly not the popular opinion, go back 30-50 years and you'd have more luck. Meanwhile, society is progressing forward on a more enlightened path.

No, the attitude 30-50 years ago was a definitive: Women can't do it, so we shouldn't let them.

My attitude is: We've let them do it, and the vast majority don't want to, and we should discuss it.

Side effects of pregnancy? you make that sound like a sure thing, that is certain to affect thee PMs performance.

Well, she's not going back to work the day after birth is she? So some of them are certain to affect her ability to the job (which is why she's taking that time off) the other side effects are possibilities, ones which raise questions about this government.

Lets skip down to your 'observation of reality', your statement about women's side affects clearly aligns with the statement you classed as racist, instead of what you describe as an observation of reality.

No, that's cause you are deliberately and disingenuously conflating the 2 and then arguing against that, as if it's my position.

Well, you aren't actually arguing against it, you are just calling me Sexist as if it proves what I've said is wrong.

That's why we don't need to post data, and that's why your sexist drivel is just that, you so are blinded by your sexism that you can't interpret the data you post in an unbiased way.

So, was what I said about IQ true or false? Was what I said about the majority choices of women true or false? You seem to be arguing as if it's false, yet you can't back your shit up.

[TheDemonLord]

Check out this thick Bitch!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-2...e-year/9363206

And more power to her - Might even have a read up on what her work is - sure to be interesting.

And on a side note - the Australian of the year is actually British

But if you've read what I've written, it does not preclude or exclude women from being Smart, or even hyper smart, it's all about the ratios.

[TheDemonLord]

May you be left in the care of a daughter in your old age.....

It's a practical guarantee at this point.

[Grumph]

It's a practical guarantee at this point.

Where do I send the information on the assisted dying bill ?

[eldog]

assisted dying bill ?

Having had and seen a relative suffer from terminal lung cancer, I would support such a bill.
It's been something that should have been introduced recently.

However we must remember the suicide rate....
I am sitting next to the grandparents of a young child who took their own life.

I know a few more who have tried...


Why is that?

[Swoop]

Having had and seen a relative suffer from terminal lung cancer, I would support such a bill.
It's been something that should have been introduced recently.

The main problem is the amount of political god-botherers who don't like the proposition of sucking someone dry financially, before they pop their clogs.