The 2017 Election Thread

[Woodman]

Or as I prefer to call it, parental neglect.

How dare you not blame the government.

[Katman]

But on top of that is the foundational argument:

Men aren't impeded in their professional roles by having Children, there are no underlying differences between men and Women, therefore Women won't be impeded in their professional roles by having children.
The PM is a Woman, she is having a child and therefore she won't be impeded.

It's an internally consistent chain of logic - all I have to do is to disprove one of the premises - namely that there is no underlying difference (to which IQ was one of the Metrics used) and that entire argument is now invalid - because it's proved there is an underlying difference, it is not a logical claim that Women won't be impeded in their professional roles by having children.

Apart from the fact that the woman has to take time out of her day to squeeze the child out from between her legs, what other guaranteed impediment is there for her?

[TheDemonLord]

Apart from the fact that the woman has to take time out of her day to squeeze the child out from between her legs, what other guaranteed impediment is there for her?

If you'd had kids, you'd know how retarded that is.

One of the guaranteed ones are the Hormonal imbalance postpartum (The Baby Blues).

The rest are possibilities, ranging from the rare (such as postpartum infections or excess blood loss) to the more common (such as postnatal Depression).

There's also Childbirth PTSD, Postpartum psychosis etc. etc.

[Katman]

If you'd had kids, you'd know how retarded that is.

One of the guaranteed ones are the Hormonal imbalance postpartum (The Baby Blues).

The rest are possibilities, ranging from the rare (such as postpartum infections or excess blood loss) to the more common (such as postnatal Depression).

There's also Childbirth PTSD, Postpartum psychosis etc. etc.

Do you understand what the word 'guaranteed' means?

[TheDemonLord]

Do you understand what the word 'guaranteed' means?

I do,

But come back to me when you've had kids, watched your partner give birth and then spent the next 2-3 weeks with them.

Might give you some perspective as to just how powerful those hormonal changes are...

[Katman]

Might give you some perspective as to just how powerful those hormonal changes are...

Well I did a quick google search and everything I found said that hormonal imbalance was a 'possibility' after child birth.

There was certainly nothing that said it was a 'guaranteed impediment'.

[Grumph]

Well I did a quick google search and everything I found said that hormonal imbalance was a 'possibility' after child birth.

There was certainly nothing that said it was a 'guaranteed impediment'.

It isn't - and there are thousands of us out here for whom it has not been a problem. But reading TDL's posts I can understand how his partner may have had problems...

I'm finding it more and more distasteful that some people have such an enormous feeling of disempowerment post election that they'll attack a successful PM in any way they can.
National failed to get in because they failed to accumulate enough friends. Not because a young attractive (to the voters) leader was sprung on them at the last minute. Get over it.

If she was like Trump and putting her foot in it/losing the country friends by the minute, then you'd have grounds to attack. Don't see it happening.

[Crasherfromwayback]

It isn't - and there are thousands of us out here for whom it has not been a problem. But reading TDL's posts I can understand how his partner may have had problems...

I'm finding it more and more distasteful that some people have such an enormous feeling of disempowerment post election that they'll attack a successful PM in any way they can.
National failed to get in because they failed to accumulate enough friends. Not because a young attractive (to the voters) leader was sprung on them at the last minute. Get over it.

If she was like Trump and putting her foot in it/losing the country friends by the minute, then you'd have grounds to attack. Don't see it happening.

Couldn't agree more. TDL's wife obviously realised she now had to deal with two petulant children at once. Who wouldn't freak out.

[TheDemonLord]

Well I did a quick google search and everything I found said that hormonal imbalance was a 'possibility' after child birth.

There was certainly nothing that said it was a 'guaranteed impediment'.

In fairness - it's about 80% of people at a global level, and of all the people I've known who have kids (cause I'm in that demographic) - 100% experienced it.

And to those wanting to take cheap shots at my Wife - Tread really carefully.

You can talk shit about me all you like, but tread carefully.

[Crasherfromwayback]

And to those wanting to take cheap shots at my Wife - Tread really carefully.

You can talk shit about me all you like, but tread carefully.

Haven't seen anyone do that as yet.

[TheDemonLord]

Haven't seen anyone do that as yet.

Well, I have.

And I've put you all on notice for it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well, I have.

And I've put you all on notice for it.

You must've seen something I haven't then. But thanks for the notice.

[Katman]

In fairness - it's about 80% of people at a global level....

So by no means 'guaranteed' then.

Well, I have.

And I've put you all on notice for it.

No-one's taken any cheap shots at your wife.

Fucking pillock.

[TheDemonLord]

So by no means 'guaranteed' then.

As I said, amongst the people I know - it was universal - probably should have clarified with a 'practically guaranteed'

No-one's taken any cheap shots at your wife.

Fucking pillock.

That's your opinion, I have mine - And I've told people where the line as far as I am concerned is and to back the fuck off it.

Your further input has the same significance as a Gnat's fart.

[sidecar bob]

Apart from the fact that the woman has to take time out of her day to squeeze the child out from between her legs, what other guaranteed impediment is there for her?

Lol, I see you don't have any kids.