The 2017 Election Thread

[Swoop]

Fun times ahead. The hoardings are going up around the streets today.

The lunatic fringe's photo of Turei is very inviting. Lots of blank space on the billboard for creative writing...

[Oakie]

Fun times ahead. The hoardings are going up around the streets today.

The lunatic fringe's photo of Turei is very inviting. Lots of blank space on the billboard for creative writing...

or coming to a Tui billboard near you ...

[Ocean1]

The lunatic fringe's photo of Turei is very inviting. Lots of blank space on the billboard for creative writing...

Flatmates wanted...

[Voltaire]

You're one of those boomer pricks, aincha? Took all the free education and home loans etc and slammed the door in the kid's faces.

Me too. Mine were told the day they left school was the day they started paying rent, one way or another.

Didn't make for 100% diligent wee paragons of virtue, but at least they know what direction the goalposts are in and they're progressing in the general direction.

Apparently that's the marketing box I fit into.... apparently Baby Boomers seem to recall they were Hard Working.....

I finished my apprenticeship in 1984,did a year and did not return to NZ until 1993.

I bought a home unit here in 1990 sight unseen for $89K in Auckland, hourly rate at the time was around $10 PH

Same place now would be 500K and sparkie rate would be around $26- 30 PH.

Don't tell me Mr English that the country is now better than it was.

The election forms are collecting dust on the table...I might ask my kids who I should vote for as they are going to live in the future.

[Ocean1]

Apparently that's the marketing box I fit into.... apparently Baby Boomers seem to recall they were Hard Working.....

I finished my apprenticeship in 1984,did a year and did not return to NZ until 1993.

I bought a home unit here in 1990 sight unseen for $89K in Auckland, hourly rate at the time was around $10 PH

Same place now would be 500K and sparkie rate would be around $26- 30 PH.

Don't tell me Mr English that the country is now better than it was.

The election forms are collecting dust on the table...I might ask my kids who I should vote for as they are going to live in the future.

As far as I can make out every generation thinks their kids lack a proper work ethic. The fact is we're pretty much the same stock, given the same environment the kids will likely grow up and work as hard as their parents. We're all exactly as lazy as we can afford to be, however. And that's the difference: The only people I can recall actually not working when I was a nipper were supported by their families, I wasn't even aware that the dole was a thing until I encountered rumors to that effect when I moved to Orks in the late 60's.

As for housing costs: What were your monthly repayments then vs now? And is that all it takes to be better?

I was reading about US anti-trust legislation the other day, and comparing that to what passes for consumer protection here, they're far more aggressive in breaking up monopolies. For me, what I want from a govt today is a better job of addressing the cause of the huge prices local govt and off shore corporations seem free to charge inside our borders... but not elsewhere. I reckon there's a 20% improvement in the standard of living right there. I'm realistic, in the global trade wars we're a pipsqueak, so I'll settle for 15%.

[YellowDog]

Apologies if this has been posted already, but they seem to have resuracted Jesus to make some pretty damn good points:

[Voltaire]

Looks like its Nationals to lose, they just need to keep Bill away from social media for 8 weeks.

[Scubbo]

too true, can't believe the bickering that's gone on in labour just before the election...... unstable party sure thats who we'll vote for

useless!!!

seems almost too orchestrated

[Swoop]

too true, can't believe the bickering that's gone on in labour just before the election...... unstable party sure thats who we'll vote for

useless!!!

Nope, just the normal level of ineptitude and un-trustworthiness that we have seen for the last few years.
They are internally unstable and not of a cohesive level that could be trusted to form a government. Take into account how this all gets worse when they have to work with another two parties that have their own agendas (Lunatic Fringe party and NZ First).

Stable, Labour-led government? Not a fucking chance.

[Ocean1]

too true, can't believe the bickering that's gone on in labour just before the election...... unstable party sure thats who we'll vote for

useless!!!

seems almost too orchestrated

Aye. How many times do they shuffle union mouthpieces before they realise: It's not the messenger.

[Ocean1]

Nope, just the normal level of ineptitude and un-trustworthiness that we have seen for the last few years.
They are internally unstable and not of a cohesive level that could be trusted to form a government. Take into account how this all gets worse when they have to work with another two parties that have their own agendas (Lunatic Fringe party and NZ First).

Stable, Labour-led government? Not a fucking chance.

And yet with a system supposedly arranged to eliminate "minority governments" we're a simple Nat PR fuckup from something even less representative: A govt nobody voted for and nobody wants.

[russd7]

That's some pretty fucked up logic, the only thing that should make you question their integrity is their actions, gender bias can fuck off to the 1900s.

Greens have a history and voter base of people tolerant to law breaking from those on low wages. I think they should both get slammed for it, (if Paula Bennet did actually commit benefit fraud), max fines etc. I don't see any gender bias in the current lack of prosecution either.

read it how you like, i actually voted for a female last election but i wouldn't vote for either of those two. and not would i vote for jacinda adern. the labour party is quite frankly fucked and national are only marginally better

[ellipsis]

...vote axl...

[Oakie]

...vote axl...

Vote for an axolotl ?

[Voltaire]

Jacinda is an ex Mormon who is now agnostic, spins vinyl, likes single malt and has a sense of humour.... whats not to like.....

Is the age of the Baby Boomer over....?

Or will smashed avocardo on toast with a trim white soy latte hold sway on polling day.



Age Est Eligible Population General Roll Maori Roll Total Enrolled Difference % Enrolled
18 - 24 460,890 262,011 31,062 293,073 167,817 63.59%
25 - 29 338,720 216,906 26,439 243,345 95,375 71.84%
30 - 34 300,030 220,841 23,619 244,460 55,570 81.48%
35 - 39 277,740 227,939 22,757 250,696 27,044 90.26%
40 - 44 288,630 243,825 22,990 266,815 21,815 92.44%
45 - 49 316,900 274,289 23,541 297,830 19,070 93.98%
50 - 54 310,050 273,200 21,837 295,037 15,013 95.16%
55 - 59 300,620 270,411 19,843 290,254 10,366 96.55%
60 - 64 261,050 235,930 14,704 250,634 10,416 96.01%
65 - 69 231,930 213,989 10,617 224,606 7,324 96.84%
70+ 483,270 453,062 14,784 467,846 15,424 96.81%
Total 3,569,830 2,892,403 232,193 3,124,596 445,234 87.53%