The 2017 Election Thread

[Ocean1]

In real terms National has underfunded healthcare. They have funded in in real terms less than it was previously this is a fact. due to population increase aging population and increased wagess and opperating cost they have continuied to underfund healthcare
This is why you posted labours data by mistake thinking it proved your point it was an epic fail.






I gave all the figures you think you know better you retard

Yet you post data from labours term in power what part of that can you not understand.

Labour have been in power since 1950?

Go away.

[Ocean1]

Here's your failing health system: http://www.commonwealthfund.org/inte...mirror-mirror/

Ranks an abysmal 4th best.

[husaberg]

Here's your failing health system: file:///C:/Users/Mark/Downloads/Schneider_mirror_mirror_2017%20(1).pdf

Ranks an abysmal 4th best.

learn how to post a link

Labour have been in power since 1950?
Go away.

You are the one who is telling us all about nationals massive increase in healthcare spending in the last decade yet trying to use Labours data to attempt to show it.

We've done this before dude, health spending in real terms has increased more in the last decade than at any time in our history, you no listen.
http://www.treasury.govt.nz/publicat...0/10-01/23.htm

This is from your link that shows what should be happening


How about some real Data as expressed as a GDP for Nats healthcare underfunding you say doesn't exist

Like Hoskings you are a real sore loser suck it up and swallow more of nationals bullshit

You're right, when they found labour had left the cupboards bare in the face of the global recession .

For the record The last Labour goverment produced nine consecutive Budget surpluses,NINE this was the strongest continuous economic growth since World War II and then on day one National comes in they start saying that labour had left the books in a dire state. What a load of Shit.

The Helen Clark-led Labour Government cut Government debt from 23 per cent when it came into power to 5 per cent

National Debt shot up under National, from 5 per cent when it came to power to nearly 25 per cent now today.

Yet despite this since in Government stopped contributions to the national super fund in 2009. Yes they stopped putting money aside to fund national super in the future.
National has also never been able to get the unemployment rate down to the 4 per cent mark achieved by Labour.

The Consumer Price Inflation (CPI) is now running at 2.2 per cent, and it is the very basics that are running higher.
According to the latest information, average hourly earnings rose just 1.3 per cent last year, 66 per cent of Kiwi workers got less than 2 per cent wage increase last year, and 45 per cent got no pay rise at all.

[Brian d marge]

Have word about economics it goes south real quick ....oh wait u are..



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[jasonu]

Let the taxing begin.
I get a kick out of someone saying they will move out of Auckland to save maybe $20 extra a week for petrol.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11936852

[Voltaire]

Let the taxing begin.
I get a kick out of someone saying they will move out of Auckland to save maybe $20 extra a week for petrol.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11936852

And North Shore types moaning about they pay for trains they don't get.....who do they think paid for the Harbour Bridge....the tooth fairy?

[mada]

Most international cities have tolls, high petrol prices, etc..

Auckland fails with its shit public transport (mostly road based) that is not cheap compared to overseas equivalents.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck Auckland. The rest of the country has been paying extra taxes for their shit for fucking decades.

[Woodman]

Let the taxing begin.
I get a kick out of someone saying they will move out of Auckland to save maybe $20 extra a week for petrol.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11936852

I like the comment about how you have to take a car to the airport because "who would take all their baggage on public transport"?

[eldog]

Fuck Auckland. The rest of the country has been paying extra taxes for their shit for fucking decades.

'bout time you guys built a wall and a gate, just north of South Auckland I reckon, would keep the whingers in.

But we can send our shit down your way if you like.

[eldog]

I like the comment about how you have to take a car to the airport because "who would take all their baggage on public transport"?

I took all my baggage on a tour of Europe - all on public transport - no worries

strangely I was dropped off at the airport in NZ by car.

[eldog]

Most international cities have tolls, high petrol prices, etc..

Auckland fails with its shit public transport (mostly road based) that is not cheap compared to overseas equivalents.

Auckland being spread out, it should have had a transport system like that in Melbourne or Sydney
Perth is supposed to be quite good for public transport (I haven't been there)

Trains spreadout and interconnection with buses

not a couple of lines FFS.

too late now.

[GazzaH]

Never too late! It takes leadership, forming and selling the vision, systematically putting things in place to achieve it, and managing the process competently throughout.

Oh and incentives ... which equates to profits and compensation for those who invest and participate in the process, despite opposition and cynicism from the naysayers.

The likes of Telford didn't do it just for the sheer love of engineering.

[mada]

Never too late! It takes leadership, forming and selling the vision, systematically putting things in place to achieve it, and managing the process competently throughout.

Oh and incentives ... which equates to profits and compensation for those who invest and participate in the process, despite opposition and cynicism from the naysayers.

The likes of Telford didn't do it just for the sheer love of engineering.

Takes a lot of $$$$ now to plan and build as all the nimbys now think their little tin shitbox house is worth $1 million +

More underground works then I guess

[mada]

Fuck Auckland. The rest of the country has been paying extra taxes for their shit for fucking decades.

I quite like the idea of councils being able to use GST from rates, council charges etc. for local infrastructure.... Central govt. doesn't deserve a cent of it.