The 2017 Election Thread

[Ocean1]

Quite the reverse, i would have happily coughed up a few extra tax dollars if Jenny would have had a bit of lipo and a face lift.
Funny enough no one actually voted for national with Jenny as a PM
You do realise its pretty okay for a woman to have a baby and work these days though its even written into law.......

Classy.

Like most rational people I tend to vote for a policy manifest, not a pretty face. Shipley happened to preside over a policy set that most people voted for, Ardern didn't, and neither does Peters.

Every female member of my family not actually a child has done, what's your point?

[husaberg]

Classy.

Like most rational people I tend to vote for a policy manifest, not a pretty face. Shipley happened to presided over a policy set that most people voted for, Ardern didn't, and neither does Peters.

Every female member of my family not actually a child has done, what's your point?

No one voted national at the election expecting Jenny Shipley to stage a coup and take over as PM.
Nor had they voted for NZ first at theat election expecting them to co into a coalition with national either at that time either.
Arden and the rest of her cohorts in the coalition won the election, its time for you to suck it up and deal with it.

[jasonu]

Quite the reverse, i would have happily coughed up a few extra tax dollars if Jenny would have had a bit of lipo and a face lift.
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That fat cunt needed more than just a face lift.

[jasonu]

Arden and the rest of her cohorts in the coalition won the election, its time for you to suck it up and deal with it.

Erm bullshit. Winston Peters managed to win the election with almost no votes.

[Voltaire]

Erm bullshit. Winston Peters managed to win the election with almost no votes.

Has he been to Moscow to kiss the ring yet?

[jasonu]

Has he been to Moscow to kiss the ring yet?

Nope didn't have to. He had national and the tooth fairy both sucking his dick at the same time.

[Ocean1]

No one voted national at the election expecting Jenny Shipley to stage a coup and take over as PM.
Nor had they voted for NZ first at theat election expecting them to co into a coalition with national either at that time either.
Arden and the rest of her cohorts in the coalition won the election, its time for you to suck it up and deal with it.

Yet again you seem to think you're engaging in a left right debate. And that's fine, go right ahead, but I'm not the natural protagonist you seem to want, there.

Outside of that I find my point already adequately presented. See ya.

[husaberg]

That fat cunt needed more than just a face lift.

Shes had a gastric bypass now and a heart attack she is now a lot slimmer than she was. She was also sued for some sort of reported bad management i think by the company recievers when she was a company director i never heard what the outcome was.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/ind...g-legal-action
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ectid=11496266

Erm bullshit. Winston Peters managed to win the election with almost no votes.

The coalalition had the most seats, its pretty simple that's why the Nats are not in power anymore.

Yet again you seem to think you're engaging in a left right debate. And that's fine, go right ahead, but I'm not the natural protagonist you seem to want, there.

Outside of that I find my point already adequately presented. See ya.

You are whinging because the Nats lost, its pretty simple for anyone to see that.
Just as before the election nearly everyone of your posts was about how great it is with national in goverment, since the election all your posts are about how crap it is that national lost the election.
Note you very rarely post in reasons to be cheerful thread now yet prior to the election your posts were a glowing endorsement of everything national tried to garner the credit for.
Note NZ is still again voted the 8th happiest country in the world despite National losing the election.
You made a big deal out of it last time but not a peep out of you about it now.
NZ voted again the least corrupt country in the world again despite the national party losing the last election, but not a peep out of you again.

[Ocean1]

You are whinging because the Nats lost, its pretty simple for anyone to see that.
Just as before the election nearly everyone of your posts was about how great it is with national in goverment, since the election all your posts are about how crap it is that national lost the election.
Note you very rarely post in reasons to be cheerful thread now yet prior to the election your posts were a glowing endorsement of everything national tried to garner the credit for.
Note NZ is still again voted the 8th happiest country in the world despite National losing the election.
You made a big deal out of it last time but not a peep out of you about it now.
NZ voted again the least corrupt country in the world again despite the national party losing the last election, but not a peep out of you again.

Well it's apparently simple for you to see that.

Note that my posts about the above have never at any time been proposed as any endorsement of any political entity, they're almost always in response to some fuckwit whining about how hard we've got it and how it's all the fault of "TPTB" whoever the fuck that might be.

What political efforts I might endorse are those that support productive enterprise and provide effective infrastructure rather than those that discourage productive behaviour and blow a high percentage of the results of whatever does occur on pointless social engineering theories. If that describes National policy rather than those of some socialist's wet dream cobbled together months after the fact and representing the interest of nobody but the politicians involved then I don't see why that might come as any surprise, it's hardly a unique observation.

[husaberg]

Well it's apparently simple for you to see that.

Note that my posts about the above have never at any time been proposed as any endorsement of any political entity, they're almost always in response to some fuckwit whining about how hard we've got it and how it's all the fault of "TPTB" whoever the fuck that might be.

What political efforts I might endorse are those that support productive enterprise and provide effective infrastructure rather than those that discourage productive behaviour and blow a high percentage of the results of whatever does occur on pointless social engineering theories. If that describes National policy rather than those of some socialist's wet dream cobbled together months after the fact and representing the interest of nobody but the politicians involved then I don't see why that might come as any surprise, it's hardly a unique observation.

So i take it you are still pretty miffed national lost the election then
Ps your posts in reason to be cheerful were never in reply to anything, they were totally unsolicited.

[Ocean1]

So i take it you are still pretty miffed national lost the election then
Ps your posts in reason to be cheerful were never in reply to anything, they were totally unsolicited.

They didn't.

And the whole thread is a response to chicken little fuckwits blaming everyone but themselves for purely imaginary catastrophes.

[husaberg]

They didn't.

Even Bill English conceded Dude

[Ocean1]

Even Bill English conceded Dude

He conceded that Peters had the legal ability to make the back room deal he did, in spite of the fact that no NZ government had ever previously been assembled by anything other than the highest polling party. Apparently Labour also recognised the fact that they'd come second and had more or less resigned themselves to another term in oposition, until Peters had a wee chat. Sounds more like a legal technical loophole needs closing than any natural authority to assume power.

Unless you've been hiding under a rock you'll be aware that poling data since the election shows that a) National not only polled higher than any other party at the election but have done so ever since. b) Winston First's support has completely collapsed, giving you some idea of what most of NZ thought about the resulting farce, and, c) most of NZ thought the Green leadership's doubling down in support of benefit fraud wasn't the sort of behaviour they saw as fit to be let loose with the taxpayer's cheque book. At least it looks like neither of the last two have any future in NZ public life, thank fuck.

[pritch]

Winston First's support has completely collapsed, giving you some idea of what most of NZ thought about the resulting farce, .

Nah. You're reading too much into that. Polls usually show a drop in support for minor parties between elections. When voting time looms their support goes up. That seems to happen every time.

Like Jim Bolger said, "Bugger the pollsters".

[nerrrd]

Jeebus, it's only been twenty bloody years of MMP or so.

The only way for a single party to 'win' an MMP election is to get more than 50 percent of the vote...which so far has never happened.

Otherwise it's wheeler-dealing all the way to the ninth floor, compromising your 'principles' left and right until a coalition 'agreement' is hashed out. I actually feel sorry for the politicians that they still get mercilessly criticised by some for having to do that. I don't blame any of them for exploiting the system they've been given to work with, that's what people do.

I suspect the sooner the older generation of pollies shuffle off to their cosy directorships the better the system might start to work (yes that's you too Winston).