The 2017 Election Thread

[sidecar bob]

Because 5 people moaning about something not happening yetclearly being attempted, from a party they never voted for, about a plan they never considered necessary,, about a problem the previous government refused to admit the existence of for the last 9 years, is different that 500 plus outright lies. That these so caled angered 5 national voters who claim, "We just dont want to be lied to" hypocritical cretins, Unless you are a National voter of course.
It just goes to show how desperate to stir and grasp at anything the right wing voters have became.
I guess that happens when their party is lead by a buffoon that even 86% of their own voters don't even want a a PM.
FFS More national voters want to see a Labour PM than their own party leader.

Id say there's a tad more than five people moaning about kiwi build.
I couldn't really care less if they build them or not, I've got plenty of houses already, but once again it's Labours downtrodden voter that's missing out yet again.

[husaberg]

Because 5 people moaning about something not happening yetclearly being attempted, from a party they never voted for, about a plan they never considered necessary,, about a problem the previous government refused to admit the existence of for the last 9 years, is different that 500 plus outright lies. That these so caled angered 5 national voters who claim, "We just dont want to be lied to" hypocritical cretins, Unless you are a National voter of course.
It just goes to show how desperate to stir and grasp at anything the right wing voters have became.
I guess that happens when their party is lead by a buffoon that even 86% of their own voters don't even want a a PM.
FFS More national voters want to see a Labour PM than their own party leader.

Id say there's a tad more than five people moaning about kiwi build.
I couldn't really care less if they build them or not, I've got plenty of houses already, but once again it's Labours downtrodden voter that's missing out yet again.

Odd that what you say is important is situation and party dependent........

I will find every news article that suggests they ether lying, breaking promises, or simply too stupid to organise some houses built & share them so nobody misses out.
I can't stand a bullshitter, weather it's an individual, or a government & I will be pointing it out regardless of their skivvy colour, in fact I will be more on to the other guys, because I expected no better from these ones.
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They're not, but Labour, But Labour, they're links to current events, not dragging up the past to make myself look equally villinous.
Did you miss my earlier post where I said I'd ring the bell on any bullshitter regardless of skivvy colour?

Is it the talk of the bowls club old chap
its a pathetic attampt to troll up some support of a non issue.
Real stuff like 500 lies and unwanted touching from the last National leader just dont seem to be important to the national voters..........
You calim to hate being lied to and will point out it no mater what party but i gave you 500 odd factually checked lied by the last National party leader which you never said a peep about......
Maybe the nats might be better off trying to figure out why 86% of their voters wouldn't want their leader to be PM
Or why much more of the national voters would rather have a unmarried mother Labour MP as the PM.
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[Ocean1]

Because 5 people moaning about something not happening yetclearly being attempted, from a party they never voted for, about a plan they never considered necessary,, about a problem the previous government refused to admit the existence of for the last 9 years, is different that 500 plus outright lies. That these so caled angered 5 national voters who claim, "We just dont want to be lied to" hypocritical cretins, Unless you are a National voter of course.
It just goes to show how desperate to stir and grasp at anything the right wing voters have became.
I guess that happens when their party is lead by a buffoon that even 86% of their own voters don't even want a a PM.
FFS More national voters want to see a Labour PM than their own party leader.

Well that's one take on it.

[husaberg]

Well that's one take on it.

Don't go letting stats get in the way aye

The 1 NEWS Colmar Brunton poll asked, "Do you think the Government should continue with the KiwiBuild scheme?"
Sixty per cent said yes, the Government should keep going, while 34 per cent said no and five per cent didn't have an opinion.

Those who were more likely to oppose KiwiBuild continuing were National supporters, people living in Otago or Southland or those with annual household incomes of more than $150,000.

Worse still, Simon Bridges is the most unpopular leader of National this century with a preferred Prime Minister rating of 4 per cent, meaning approximately 89 per cent of National supporters do not want Bridges as Prime Minister. Meanwhile, National is now seeing its support levels plummet to depths unseen in 15 years.

The Newshub Reid Research Poll pitched Ardern slightly higher for preferred prime minister, at 49 per cent.
That poll also showed just 17.4 per cent of people thought Simon Bridges was performing well as National's leader, while 56 per cent thought he was performing poorly.
Ardern secured her highest approval rating yet, with 72.5 per cent of respondents saying she was performing well as PM. Just 15.6 per cent thought she was performing poorly.

for those that are not so great with maths like Ocean, that's nearly twice as many support it continuing than it stopping.

[sidecar bob]

Don't go letting stats get in the way aye




for those that are not so great with maths like Ocean, that's nearly twice as many support it continuing than it stopping.

To be fair & to create some balance, Labour aren't too great with maths either.
What about if they re hash the figures to what they might achieve, rather than some way off childish guess.
How many people support that?

[husaberg]

To be fair & to create some balance, Labour aren't too great with maths either.
What about if they re hash the figures to what they might achieve, rather than some way off childish guess.
How many people support that?

400 plus lies from nationals leader and not a peep from you about it..........
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/06/0...s-by-john-key/
https://thestandard.org.nz/john-keys-legacy-of-lies/
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-great...-lies-updated/
Kind of makes what you say here not truthful at all.........

I will find every news article that suggests they ether lying, breaking promises, or simply too stupid to organise some houses built & share them so nobody misses out.
I can't stand a bullshitter, weather it's an individual, or a government & I will be pointing it out regardless of their skivvy colour, in fact I will be more on to the other guys, because I expected no better from these ones.
.

They're not, but Labour, But Labour, they're links to current events, not dragging up the past to make myself look equally villinous.
Did you miss my earlier post where I said I'd ring the bell on any bullshitter regardless of skivvy colour?

[Ocean1]

for those that are not so great with maths like Ocean, that's nearly twice as many support it continuing than it stopping.

Ocean doesn't apply "maths" to politicians, dude, only gullible fuckwits desperate to deflect attention from policy outcomes, (which actually are amenable to arithmetic) do that.

Like this kiwibuild shit for example.

Unfortunately not only are the kiwibuild numbers a fucking joke, but the quantity of fuckwits who bought into the bullshit apparently don't have enough fingers to understand the size of the resulting debacle.

[sidecar bob]

400 plus lies from nationals leader and not a peep from you about it..........
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I believe it must represent some kind of world record for Internet forum post length.
I thought it was going to break the internet before I got halfway down & due to my incredibly short span of attention I didn't get past the second line.
Now don't criticise that or I'll pull you up for not reading the article I posted where Jan Tinnetti was "but Nashnil'ing" that you claimed you didn't read.

[husaberg]

I believe it must represent some kind of world record for Internet forum post length.
I thought it was going to break the internet before I got halfway down & due to my incredibly short span of attention I didn't get past the second line.
Now don't criticise that or I'll pull you up for not reading the article I posted where Jan Tinnetti was "but Nashnil'ing" that you claimed you didn't read.

shh......I have made far bigger ones
SO you make hypocritical statements and i am the one that needs to watch out or you will pull me up............
So you either use the same standards with both parties or ocean off.

[husaberg]

I believe it must represent some kind of world record for Internet forum post length.
I thought it was going to break the internet before I got halfway down & due to my incredibly short span of attention I didn't get past the second line.
Now don't criticise that or I'll pull you up for not reading the article I posted where Jan Tinnetti was "but Nashnil'ing" that you claimed you didn't read.

shh......I have made far bigger ones
So you make hypocritical statements and i am the one that needs to watch out or you will pull me up............
So you either use the same standards with both parties or ocean off.

To be fair & to create some balance, Labour aren't too great with maths either.
What about if they re hash the figures to what they might achieve, rather than some way off childish guess.
How many people support that?

400 plus lies from nationals leader and not a peep from you about it..........
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/06/0...s-by-john-key/
https://thestandard.org.nz/john-keys-legacy-of-lies/
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-great...-lies-updated/
Kind of makes what you say here not truthful at all.........

I will find every news article that suggests they ether lying, breaking promises, or simply too stupid to organise some houses built & share them so nobody misses out.
I can't stand a bullshitter, weather it's an individual, or a government & I will be pointing it out regardless of their skivvy colour, in fact I will be more on to the other guys, because I expected no better from these ones.
.

They're not, but Labour, But Labour, they're links to current events, not dragging up the past to make myself look equally villinous.
Did you miss my earlier post where I said I'd ring the bell on any bullshitter regardless of skivvy colour?

I can tell ypou are one the ropes as you reuse to counter the hypocritical statement you just keep jabbing on with no defense offered

[sidecar bob]

shh......I have made far bigger ones
So you make hypocritical statements and i am the one that needs to watch out or you will pull me up............
So you either use the same standards with both parties or ocean off.


400 plus lies from nationals leader and not a peep from you about it..........
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/06/0...s-by-john-key/
https://thestandard.org.nz/john-keys-legacy-of-lies/
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-great...-lies-updated/
Kind of makes what you say here not truthful at all.........




I can tell ypou are one the ropes as you reuse to counter the hypocritical statement you just keep jabbing on with no defense offered

I don't really buy into it, I only post for my own amusement.

[husaberg]

I don't really buy into it, I only post for my own amusement.

I am not buying what you are selling.
So unless you can produce some evidence that shows you treat the two parties the same and have held them to the same standards i can only draw the conclusion that both statements you made were total horsesht.

I will find every news article that suggests they ether lying, breaking promises, or simply too stupid to organise some houses built & share them so nobody misses out.
I can't stand a bullshitter, weather it's an individual, or a government & I will be pointing it out regardless of their skivvy colour, in fact I will be more on to the other guys, because I expected no better from these ones.
.

They're not, but Labour, But Labour, they're links to current events, not dragging up the past to make myself look equally villinous.
Did you miss my earlier post where I said I'd ring the bell on any bullshitter regardless of skivvy colour?

I gave you over 400 plus lies as told by the previous prime minister which you refuse to counter or even consider as being relevent.

[Murray]

Sure i am happy to, but only as soon as you address al the 500 and whatever proven lies told by the last governemnt made and point out hoe not building as many houses is a bigger deal than any of the 500 plus lies you want to sweep under the carpet.

Cop out!!!!

[husaberg]

Cop out!!!!

Ii will take that ias you dont want to discuss the 400 plus lies the previous national leader was caught out in as it clearly offends you more that not enough houses were built in the time frame rather than 400 outright lies did...........

[Swoop]

What do you mean 'distraction'? They promised thousands of affordable houses and delivered fuck all. How can you defend that with a straight face???

Thousands of houses would only be affordable if they built them in the middle of nowhere - but they'd still fail since there isn't enough tradesmen to undertake the task... a fundemental underlying fact that liarbour fails to comprehend.

To be fair & to create some balance, Labour aren't too great with maths either.

That's why they are "re-imagining" the kiwibuild fiasco with a new target. Commonly referred to as "moving the goalposts" to hide the abject failures of their policies.