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    The 2017 Election Thread

    So:

    -After the election National will be the most popular individual party at low to mid 40s unless something really spectacular happens...
    -Labour must play nice with Greens and NZ First to get in ... but the Greens and NZ First aren't playing nicely with each other at present
    -Labour's deputy leader is more popular than their leader
    -Greens want to make being on the benefit a borderline viable career choice (well perhaps not really but ...)
    -Winston Peters looks as happy as a pig in shit and will probably be the king-maker
    -Minor parties seem to have some big personalites that could possibly win a seat regardless of policies.
    -We have no Donald Trump

    Discuss:
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    TOP could do alright I think.

    Is there a news source more focused on realpolitik rather than the sensationalist rubbish like we saw last year?
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    i believe that national won't win this election they just won't lose it.

    all the parties are doing their best to buy votes and discredit the others and to be honest of the crap we have to choose from national are still the stronger party

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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    TOP could do alright I think.

    Is there a news source more focused on realpolitik rather than the sensationalist rubbish like we saw last year?
    Dunno. I suspect the media, to a man have been infected by various flavours of single issue lobby groups presenting predigested sensationalised pap. Not nescisarilly exactly partisan swill, but because it's mostly shock horror shame shit it has the same hugely imbalanced effect.

    I mean look at that health report over there, how close are the numerous political news items in describing our actual system performance? Most of them would have you believe we're spending less than ever and hugely underperforming.

    Meh. I'll be happy if we keep benefit fraudsters fingers out of the national till.
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    The Lunatic Fringe party isn't doing itself any favours with Turei's admission of benefit fraud, and with the promise of making the dole a full time profession for anyone who wants to breed, consume drugs and not work...

    Andrew Little is most certainly the man to lead the liarbour party. Excellent choice indeed.

    TOP? Morgan is getting wackier by the week. Only two decent policies but these do not outweigh his bizarre fantasies in other areas however.

    Winston. Classy as ever and still able to put the heat onto the other MP's. Have to support his binding referendum on MP numbers and the Maori electorates.
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    Well, after MP in AU resigned for the ghastly crime of being born in Palmerston North I'd be surprised if Turia gets away with

    here confession. Was she about to be outed?

    Offering to pay it back if they investigated sounded a bit lame.

    Or will they let it go as possible coalition buddies.

    With the new Dr Who now being a woman its probably bye bye Andrew Little after the election.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Winston. Classy as ever and still able to put the heat onto the other MP's. Have to support his binding referendum on MP numbers and the Maori electorates.
    I don't agree with his policies but man that guy is an awesome orator. Probably the MP with the most 'presence' out of the current crop. I still remember telling my very white, very presbyterian, great aunt many years ago when Winston was still in the National Party (mid 1970s?) that one day Winston Peters would be Prime Minister. She looked at me with horror and I can still hear her saying "Oh Richard, but hes's a Maori!"
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    Turia scored an own-goal this week for sure.
    Winston's always been fantastic in opposition (Andrew Little & Quiet could learn a lot from him) but never impressed when ever he's had a shot at being in charge. He'll get a few seats this election for sure, and it'll turn into a fuckup like last time. I bet he still wont build the bridges in northland...
    I notice Billy-boys been quiet this week, obviously been told to keep his trap shut and let the opposition parties cock things up for themselves... I still can't understand why so many of us believe him and his MPs when they say everythings fine, and "it's all a problem of success"... Surely those are still problems? I know it's a problem for me to be able to find enough workers, AND pay them enough to afford to live in Auckland! Pisses me off that the horse has bolted on Ak house prices, and all the things the gov could have done but never did... Oh well, at least Ch-Ch is fully rebuilt... thanks to Fatty Brownlee and his fantastic diatribes.

    Sigh

    I wonder what the McGillycuddy Serious candidates name is this time...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Andy View Post
    I wonder what the McGillycuddy Serious candidates name is this time...?
    Sorry. They disbanded in 1999.
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    You know you shouldn't be talking about Turia (Tariana), she is long finished, this one is Turei - Metiria Turei.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Andy View Post
    Oh well, at least Ch-Ch is fully rebuilt... thanks to Fatty Brownlee and his fantastic diatribes.

    Sigh

    I wonder what the McGillycuddy Serious candidates name is this time...?
    Firstly - the problems in Chch are nowhere near over. Fake news promoted by the Nats and a media who know that the rest of NZ simply don't want to hear about it any more. I'm hearing that Kaikoura will turn into the same fuckup too.

    Secondly - TOP is this elections McGillycuddy party - but way better funded. A wasted vote.
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    Not even one page old and the confused state of the NZ electorate is beginning to look like little America!
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Not even one page old and the confused state of the NZ electorate is beginning to look like little America!
    But sadly for you, with Key gone any links to Israel may be harder to find....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    But sadly for you, with Key gone any links to Israel may be harder to find....
    Time will reveal all - we probably have enough of it left to experience the outcome - it seems to be moving that quickly now - Sigh!

    (packs away tinfoil hat and retires for breakfast)
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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    You know you shouldn't be talking about Turia (Tariana), she is long finished, this one is Turei - Metiria Turei.
    Beg pardon, you're quite right. I feel bad muddling the names up, I liked Tariana, she spoke well, worked hard and achieved some stuff. Metiria hasn't been proven yet.
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