The 2017 Election Thread

[husaberg]

An interesting comment was passed at work the other day. The father of an employee was complaining about his house in which he lives alone...
His FOUR bedroom house.
STATE house...
And there is a "housing crisis". Remember that residents of state houses seem to think that they OWN the property, and are not just renting it off of the taxpayers!
Solving the "housing crisis" is simple if they just follow the socialist principles of shoving four families into a single building - "1 bedroom per family comrades!"

You might want to explain what that has to do with selling off thousands of houses pretending the money was to be used to build more when it was never spend on building more...............

[jasonu]

They have to support their education union supporters "somehow"...


An interesting comment was passed at work the other day. The father of an employee was complaining about his house in which he lives alone...
His FOUR bedroom house.
STATE house...

And there is a "housing crisis". Remember that residents of state houses seem to think that they OWN the property, and are not just renting it off of the taxpayers!
!

They should put 3 other complete single strangers looking for state housing in it.
In fact that could be the new policy. You have a spare room in your state house, we will fill it with who ever is next on the list.

[Scubbo]

why that is not done now doesn't make sense -- surely its for those in dire need?

[husaberg]

They should put 3 other complete single strangers looking for state housing in it.
In fact that could be the new policy. You have a spare room in your state house, we will fill it with who ever is next on the list.

Maybe you should move to NZ and stand for parliament seeing your ideas for what NZ should do are so great, people with be falling over themselves to vote for you, wont they.
On second thoughts run for US president they have even lower standards.............

[Ocean1]

Similar to the old Auckland Cuntcil Building which is a festering disaster and asbestos biohazard. Good luck to the developers with that shithole!

Mate you have no idea. A close relative repairs state houses for a living, the cops certainly don't have a monopoly on good work stories. The difference in maintenance costs for private homes vs state houses is unbelievable.

[Swoop]

Mate you have no idea. A close relative repairs state houses for a living, the cops certainly don't have a monopoly on good work stories. The difference in maintenance costs for private homes vs state houses is unbelievable.

A mate does insurance reinstatement work for public housing...
Yup, the stories are jaw-droppingly unbelieveable.

[Swoop]

You might want to explain what that has to do with selling off thousands of houses pretending the money was to be used to build more when it was never spend on building more...............

So, a bit like liarbour's "NO more money for teachers" really meaning "yes, we'll be held to ransom for another 300mil"?

[husaberg]

A mate does insurance reinstatement work for public housing...
Yup, the stories are jaw-droppingly unbelieveable.

Yeah millions wasted.
https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/4...aled-as-a-sham
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/a...ectid=12061507
https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...ion-houses-has

[pritch]

Mate you have no idea. A close relative repairs state houses for a living, the cops certainly don't have a monopoly on good work stories. The difference in maintenance costs for private homes vs state houses is unbelievable.

A friend of mine had a relationship with a solo mum. Thinking to make the relationship permanent he enquired of Housing Corp, or whatever its name was at the time, about buying her near new state house. The price quoted was a shock so he went elsewhere. For less than he was quoted for a state house in a state housing area, he had an architect designed house built in a very nice street that subsequently won "Street Of The Year" several times.

There might be more reasons for high state housing costs than just damage by residents?

[Ocean1]

A friend of mine had a relationship with a solo mum. Thinking to make the relationship permanent he enquired of Housing Corp, or whatever its name was at the time, about buying her near new state house. The price quoted was a shock so he went elsewhere. For less than he was quoted for a state house in a state housing area, he had an architect designed house built in a very nice street that subsequently won "Street Of The Year" several times.

There might be more reasons for high state housing costs than just damage by residents?

I wasn't suggesting for a moment that any govt dept might be anything short of utterly abysmal in spending taxpayer's money, far less that train wreck of a fiasco. I've been trying to find a decade old analysis of the value returned from govt spending compared to that achieved by those that actually earned the money. Memory says it was something just short of 30%.

It remains a fact that state tenants are the recipients of free maintenance and repair services most private home owners can only dream of affording to have done by a professional.

[jasonu]

It remains a fact that state tenants are the recipients of free maintenance and repair services most private home owners can only dream of .

and it is never enough.

[husaberg]

I wasn't suggesting for a moment that any govt dept might be anything short of utterly abysmal in spending taxpayer's money, far less that train wreck of a fiasco. I've been trying to find a decade old analysis of the value returned from govt spending compared to that achieved by those that actually earned the money. Memory says it was something just short of 30%.

It remains a fact that state tenants are the recipients of free maintenance and repair services most private home owners can only dream of affording to have done by a professional.

Arn't you just a bitter old codger.
So what children get free healthcare, old people get the pension, pedestrians get footpaths, councils provide public toilets.
At least the current lot doesn't have to borrow money so people can get "TAX cuts" we clearly cant afford.
But feel free to moan on about how you can do better and how much your opinion matters when its clear you are a minority in your views.

[oldrider]

I wasn't suggesting for a moment that any govt dept might be anything short of utterly abysmal in spending taxpayer's money, far less that train wreck of a fiasco. I've been trying to find a decade old analysis of the value returned from govt spending compared to that achieved by those that actually earned the money. Memory says it was something just short of 30%.

It remains a fact that state tenants are the recipients of free maintenance and repair services most private home owners can only dream of affording to have done by a professional.

We now live on the edge of an Housing Corp subdivision where some (50%?) of the houses have been bought privately by tenants.

Interesting hearing the conversational comments regarding how much money the tenants are getting spent on upgrades and maintenance at no extra cost to the tenants.

The private owners appear to be paying more for equivalent work due to bulk contract pricing (housing corp) against smaller individual job quotes for the private houses?

Neighbour next door grows trees galore - gets paid allowance to clean up her section - we have to pay to clean up all the crap that comes over the fence into our place.

Not complaining just saying - We prefer to own our own home! - It is what it is!

[Ocean1]

But nashnil....

Fuck off you deluded fuckwit.

[husaberg]

Fuck off you deluded fuckwit.

Maybe if you could refute the points you wouldn't need the abuse. But of course you cant do that can you, thats the differece between posting ill considered opininated rhetoric, because you dont comprehend stuff and having something practical and useful and more importantly well thought out to say.
Good luck finding the other 40% you need for Natzi leader to be the preferred leader of NZ, maybe if you find other four sets of co leaders...............
If you feel you are the mastermind of all things political and everyone else is just not as smart as you show some guts and stand for Parliament like Mashy did, i doubt you will even get his level of support.