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[Cosmik de Bris]

Indeed it is. I took Tramadol like it was water for a while. I didn't change my driving habits one iota as it had no more affect on my alertness than a sugar pill.

Or so you thought. How did you test it?

Cheers

[Honest Andy]

Or so you thought. How did you test it?

Cheers

Good point

[swbarnett]

Or so you thought. How did you test it?

Cheers

I know what it feels like when I'm impaired (my one and only night when I got mildly drunk after 5 long island ice teas and 13 B52s). On tramadol I didn't deviate from the norm in the slightest.

I drove trouble free for several weeks. I was still able to parallel park into tight spaces with accuracy. I also spent time in my workshop using an unguarded table saw and retained all my fingers.

The story I heard from a colleague was that they could hardly get in the car, let alone drive.

[FJRider]

So damn near a third of them. Can I imagine that number would go up if marijuana is legalised and I will have to face a larger number of people coming towards me in a far from competent state?

If you think legality will increase drivers under the influence of drugs ... do you think making alcohol illegal will reduce the number of drunk drivers on the roads .. ???

In all the legalise debate going on lately I've not heard one word of how the system will deal with users that then decide to go out on the roads. Scary shit really.

Probably ... how they're dealing with it now. Drug tests are simple and quick. Doctors are not required to do the test.

The only changes to now ... random stops for breath tests ... could include drug test as well.

[haydes55]

This sort of hits on the point, much like drink driving, you can never legislate a perfect one rule fits all...

But, if weed is made legal, it is critical that a roadside test that can determine intoxication vs toked on a j at the company bbq, is available to officers.

Currently the best salvia test can only tell the officer that weed has touched thine lips in the last 24 hours or so, which imo does not signify someone incapable of operating a vehicle...

Why not copy the yanks and do a roadside impairment test. Record a suspected impaired driver attempt a few basic tasks (walk a straight line, read a poster at a distance, say "slippery snakes nipples" without laughing etc). If you can design a test which anyone could do sober, but once impaired you would struggle (even better is it tests reaction speed, coordination and vision at which you need for driving).

Booze bus can still use breathalizers but if anyone has bloodshot eyes, swerves, drives erratically, looks tired or smells of drugs, pull them off the road for a 2 minute test. If they fail that, drug test for proof in court. If that's clean and they were just tired, then no drink driving charge, just a impaired driving charge with a small penalty. If you're stoned but pass the impairment test, or if you've had 5 beers but pass, then you obviously handle your poison better than the average bear and aren't actually a danger.

Plus I'm sure some dim witted idiots would fail completely sober and those people should be given bus tickets.

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[T.W.R]

Why not copy the yanks and do a roadside impairment test. Record a suspected impaired driver attempt a few basic tasks (walk a straight line, read a poster at a distance, say "slippery snakes nipples" without laughing etc). If you can design a test which anyone could do sober, but once impaired you would struggle (even better is it tests reaction speed, coordination and vision at which you need for driving).

Booze bus can still use breathalizers but if anyone has bloodshot eyes, swerves, drives erratically, looks tired or smells of drugs, pull them off the road for a 2 minute test. If they fail that, drug test for proof in court. If that's clean and they were just tired, then no drink driving charge, just a impaired driving charge with a small penalty. If you're stoned but pass the impairment test, or if you've had 5 beers but pass, then you obviously handle your poison better than the average bear and aren't actually a danger.

Plus I'm sure some dim witted idiots would fail completely sober and those people should be given bus tickets.

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You should've worked in the open cast coal mines at Huntly in the mid 90s
CoalCorp was running the gig but the actual extraction was done by Downer Construction when I was there, but CoalCorp had their own trucks shifting the coal from the mines to the railway etc
Their drivers of the dump trucks (mainly Cat 777s) were constantly off their heads and driving these trucks fully loaded & topped out on the haul roads (so carrying 70ton loads @ between 50-70km/h) and racing & drifting these machines while herbed up to the max.
The smoko prefabs, around the door way the roaches out numbered the ciggy butts 10-1

[Cosmik de Bris]

I know what it feels like when I'm impaired

Yeah, well drinking half a bottle of whisky makes me more intelligent, I've noticed it many times.

Cheers

[swbarnett]

Yeah, well drinking half a bottle of whisky makes me more intelligent, I've noticed it many times.

Cheers

Of course I didn't only rely on my own self-assessment. My wife, among others, were fully in agreement.

It just seems that there are very few chemicals that have a drowsing affect on me (no that I've tried that many).

[russd7]

Yeah, well drinking half a bottle of whisky makes me more intelligent, I've noticed it many times.

Cheers

have solved a few of the worlds problems whilst consuming whiskey

[granstar]

have solved a few of the worlds problems whilst consuming whiskey

But you never solved where I hid the cap. Besides, the world problems simply do not get solved over a wine.

[russd7]

But you never solved where I hid the cap. Besides, the world problems simply do not get solved over a wine.

wasn't till the following afternoon i remembered they didn't have caps, the fuckers had corks, oh well, empty bottles don't need resealed

[granstar]

Musta been another victim [IMG][/IMG]

[rastuscat]

Driving While Impaired is an offence in NZ.

It's based on a Compulsory Impairment Test.

Yet another topic KB seems to have little knowledge of.

[Voltaire]

Driving While Impaired is an offence in NZ.

It's based on a Compulsory Impairment Test.

Yet another topic KB seems to have little knowledge of.

Given the amount of drivers I see playing with their phones and general poor road skills/manners good luck enforcing that.

Appears many can't even put a seat belt on.

[awayatc]

Given the amount of drivers I see playing with their phones and general poor road skills/manners good luck enforcing that.

Appears many can't even put a seat belt on.

Or my pet hate....Random indicating/no indicating at roundabouts.....

Amount of police resources/enforcement I have seen in this or any other area of road safety policing?

Zero

The only positive contribution I see nz police make to road safety is their breathilising check points.

Apart from that the entire policing effort seems to be directed to speed tax collection.

Shamefull