Engine Size Questions

[jellywrestler]

Im pretty sure the 4 air filter guys were confident they wouldnt be caught either.

where in the rule book does it say you cannot remove air filters please?

[Grumph]

i have watched every single minute of gixxer racing in nz, i saw one bike with an engine out, it went into another bike as there was something a miss but not a failure, one bike was sealed at ruapuna the rider fronted up with a different ecu before they found it, his round was nullified, they have since watched him on the track and removed the seals as they don' beleive he has done anything else, it's news to me about the other three sealed engines, complete news, i also spent the night with the rider mentioned above (and a few others), he mentioned nothing whatsoever about anyone else getting sealed,

My comments were as a result of conversations with the scrutineer and technical officer in the pits at Levels. I didn't ask for names or details.

Are you becoming a believer or just making the most of a bad idea ? Yes, some will come through from this class. Whether as Suzuki doubtless hope, they'll stay loyal to the brand is yet to be seen.

[Grumph]

Being a cynical middle aged (I'm assuming that I live to 100) barstard with no love of 4 Strokes.


That is all. Just wanted it noted.

Duly noted, thanks for your input Dave...

[Grumph]

where in the rule book does it say you cannot remove air filters please?

"all parts and functions must remain as original" I doubt removal of the air filter element could be justified as a safety issue....

[Kickaha]

will it have the backup from Suzuki next year?...

I was told they will have a new model 150 out next year with 2 more Hp which would make the current model obsolete if it is correct

whereas the gixxers are packed with newcomers

How many are absolute novices to racing (including off road) ?

[Yow Ling]

where in the rule book does it say you cannot remove air filters please?

In the Gixxer rules is where I found it

All parts and functions must remain as per Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) specifications unless stated otherwise.

as it is not stated otherwise then you can not remove them

Edit: Well done Grumph beat me by a mile

[Yow Ling]

"all parts and functions must remain as original" I doubt removal of the air filter element could be justified as a safety issue....

Nor could shortening the superbike race by 2 laps be justified by safety , but they did

[Kickaha]

Nor could shortening the superbike race by 2 laps be justified by safety , but they did

Safety or in the interest of the brand of Bikes that couldn't make it?

[Yow Ling]

Safety or in the interest of the brand of Bikes that couldn't make it?

Brand Safety

[jasonu]

i have watched every single minute of gixxer racing in nz, i saw one bike with an engine out, it went into another bike as there was something a miss but not a failure, one bike was sealed at ruapuna the rider fronted up with a different ecu before they found it, his round was nullified, they have since watched him on the track and removed the seals as they don' beleive he has done anything else, it's news to me about the other three sealed engines, complete news, i also spent the night with the rider mentioned above (and a few others), he mentioned nothing whatsoever about anyone else getting sealed,

Sounds like a lot of wanking around and time wasting for a nothing class that will die out in a year or two at the most. These kids would be better off in Buckets.

[jellywrestler]

Sounds like a lot of wanking around and time wasting for a nothing class that will die out in a year or two at the most. These kids would be better off in Buckets.

i was at the mnz conference where their were learned representatives of most clubs in new zealand in the road race discussion, each club rep was representing all of their members, they thought different to you.

[jellywrestler]

In the Gixxer rules is where I found it

All parts and functions must remain as per Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) specifications unless stated otherwise.

as it is not stated otherwise then you can not remove them

Edit: Well done Grumph beat me by a mile

so when a rule is read there are two ways to read it, how you see it and how you would defend it, in the old jump start rule it said a blackboard must displayed, tell me why that blackboard couldn't be displayed at mcdonalds in rotorua?

[jellywrestler]

My comments were as a result of conversations with the scrutineer and technical officer in the pits at Levels. I didn't ask for names or details.

Are you becoming a believer or just making the most of a bad idea ? Yes, some will come through from this class. Whether as Suzuki doubtless hope, they'll stay loyal to the brand is yet to be seen.

and you know them, just surprised me a bit, was that as early as saturday?

[Drew]

Safety or in the interest of the brand of Bikes that couldn't make it?

The safety aspect of it could be with regards to the refuel rule. The bikes were capable of doing the 20 laps without issue, but a red flag half way through the third lap would mean they need gas. Rule says no refueling in pit lane.

[Yow Ling]

The safety aspect of it could be with regards to the refuel rule. The bikes were capable of doing the 20 laps without issue, but a red flag half way through the third lap would mean they need gas. Rule says no refueling in pit lane.

So why should the owners of bikes that could make the distance have to kowtow to the ones that couldnt ?