Election Bribes 2017

[pete376403]

Nationals proposed law changes against drug dealers is a great policy and about time too.

Bennett "drug dealers and gang members have fewer human rights..." I wonder if this includes her grand-daughters father?


"Police said Halaholo, 23, was a member of the Thugs of Canal, a so-called youth gang based around Canal St in Avondale. The gang members reportedly have a history of violence and intimidation, creating the risk inappropriate pressure could be brought to bear on the senior minister and her decisions.

Yesterday, Halaholo’s father Lolo Halaholo, 42, said Bennett had been trying to support her daughter and family by taking in her granddaughter’s father.
Viliami Halaholo left Avondale College aged 17 and got work with a road crew. He had been in regular police trouble because of his involvement in up to 10 fights, his father said.
Halaholo’s aunty, Tolo Langi, said her nephew had settled down after meeting Ana, but had still hung around Avondale with his gang associates.
Ana studied at Excel Ministries School of Performing Arts before becoming a mum.
Ana and Halaholo plan to set up house with their child and Halaholo’s other toddler daughter when he gets out, Langi said. The family hoped he would be up for parole this year."

[TheDemonLord]

Nationals proposed law changes against drug dealers is a great policy and about time too.

Interesting - but this comment scares me:

But she said that they would only be applied to serious criminals, adding that this group of people had "fewer human rights than others".

Part of me agrees with it, but the other half is extremely wary when a Government limits the human rights of others.

[TheDemonLord]

But for anyone not wanting to buy a house they wont have to pay it unlike food which is more essential. With the depressed property market now vendors may not find capital gains tax easy to pass on.

Cause people don't need a place to live....

[Woodman]

Interesting - but this comment scares me:



Part of me agrees with it, but the other half is extremely wary when a Government limits the human rights of others.

aaah the poor struggling drug dealer.

If the drug dealers don't like it then they can always lobby parliament, after all they still have rights.

[AllanB]

aaah the poor struggling drug dealer.

If the drug dealers don't like it then they can always lobby parliament, after all they still have rights.

Hmm one could argue that if they are not paying tax on their ill gotten funds then are they not by default giving up their tax payer rights?

Hang em high.

[TheDemonLord]

aaah the poor struggling drug dealer.

If the drug dealers don't like it then they can always lobby parliament, after all they still have rights.

I'll note that Mr English basically said Mrs Bennetts comments were inaccurate.

but I must challenge - the same line of reasoning (They are Criminals, they don't deserve rights/protections) is the same line of Reasoning that was used to justify Torture as a punishment.

It's a very very principled issue.

[Katman]

but I must challenge - the same line of reasoning (They are Criminals, they don't deserve rights/protections) is the same line of Reasoning that was used to justify Torture as a punishment.

It's a very very principled issue.

But you don't seem to have a problem with 'confessions' obtained by means of torture - when it suits your argument.

[TheDemonLord]

But you don't seem to have a problem with 'confessions' obtained by means of torture - when it suits your argument.

Such as?

or are you lumping Psychological pressure in with Torture?

[oldrider]

Who needs election bribes when we have parasites like this? - if they don't get their own way they simply consume the host! .

[jasonu]

(Insert any political party name here) are just promising the world with no fucken clue where the money will come from.
If they get in they will then blame the (Insert any political party name here) Government for leaving the country in such a bad state that they can't fulfill their election promises.

Fixed it for you

[jasonu]

But for anyone not wanting to buy a house they wont have to pay it unlike food which is more essential. With the depressed property market now vendors may not find capital gains tax easy to pass on.

What depressed property market? The thing is red hot in a good portion of NZ.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11913359

[James Deuce]

What depressed property market? The thing is red hot in a good portion of NZ.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11913359

The Real Estate agents are depressed, not the market. Growth is in single figure percentages.

[SPman]

Capital gains tax will be paid by the consumers too.

The one's accruing all those capital gains??????

[AllanB]

The one's accruing all those capital gains??????

Every time you write a sentence online, Labour have spyware that counts how many capitals you use and tax you for that. No more LOL or WTF under Jacinda people.

[awayatc]

Nationals proposed law changes against drug dealers is a great policy and about time too.

We have courts to rule on guilt....
And the police to get them there.

I don't mind if we want to change the laws.
I object to the government wanting to bypass it.

We want people to operate within the law,
So should the government.....

Coz I trust them just a little as I trust drug dealers