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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I think it's called frustration at your lack of humanity. We can have a difference of opinion over murka invading countries in the name of defense. I'm sure I once heard someone say something about having a bigger stick as being the greatest deterrent of war. Clinton essentially gave him the stick. Not sure why the U.S. are calling foul. As for an NK invasion... fear porn.

    I can see the frustration given that we're talking about war and it's obvious poop outcomes (tell me sir, how do you feel about the immigration numbers) as if they're acceptable byproducts of how we do things. You don't feel the slightest twinge of there but for the grace of god go I?
    Lack of humanity? So which will cause more deaths? letting NK carry on and do what they want or sending some soldiers in now before they get ramped up?

    If they get left alone and it all just fizzles out then I was wrong. Big deal. I hope I am wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Lack of humanity? So which will cause more deaths? letting NK carry on and do what they want or sending some soldiers in now before they get ramped up?

    If they get left alone and it all just fizzles out then I was wrong. Big deal. I hope I am wrong.
    Perceived. Leave him alone. The evidence states that despite various "dangerous" nations having nuclear weapons and an axe to grind with the west, that we haven't had nuclear war. I don't see it as likely that Kim would suddenly want to start one. It's the same excuse as the clusterfuck know as Iraq. Sure Saddam was quite possibly a dodgy geezer with a penchant for maintaining power at any costs, but the place is way more fucked now that it ever was under Saddam. And all because he supposedly had some weapons that someone thought he shouldn't have? There's a long history of murkans going places and fucking things up merely to remove someone they consider unfriendly.

    Worst case scenario is nuclear war. When one bird goes up, then most likely many many many more will. No point in counting the deaths. It'll be messy. Nuclear war also comes in small doses. Fallujah for instance. I don't see Kim really wanting to fuck things up that badly, despite the history they share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Wow, why all the angst? What is it with you and katman that you can't have a difference of opinion with someone without throwing your toys out of the cot?

    Anyway

    So you are happy with what NK are doing then? No risk of them attacking or invading someone if they just get left alone?
    You're the one with all of the angst you docile cunt. Oh noooooooo...NK are gonna bomb us! Oooohhhh....whoa...watch out for the Bogey Man under the bed!!!! We're all gonna die!!!

    Get a fucking brain.

    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I think it's called frustration at your lack of humanity. We can have a difference of opinion over murka invading countries in the name of defense. I'm sure I once heard someone say something about having a bigger stick as being the greatest deterrent of war. Clinton essentially gave him the stick. Not sure why the U.S. are calling foul. As for an NK invasion... fear porn.

    I can see the frustration given that we're talking about war and it's obvious poop outcomes (tell me sir, how do you feel about the immigration numbers) as if they're acceptable byproducts of how we do things. You don't feel the slightest twinge of there but for the grace of god go I?

    This is called nail vs head. Someone with a brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    You're the one with all of the angst you docile cunt. Oh noooooooo...NK are gonna bomb us! Oooohhhh....whoa...watch out for the Bogey Man under the bed!!!! We're all gonna die!!!

    Get a fucking brain.




    This is called nail vs head. Someone with a brain.
    I just asked a couple of questions. No need to spin out, they just questions For example. If I ask you "are you a fuckwit?" I am not calling you a fuckwit, just asking if you are a fuckwit or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    I just asked a couple of questions. No need to spin out, they just questions For example. If I ask you "are you a fuckwit?" I am not calling you a fuckwit, just asking if you are a fuckwit or not.
    Well, at least we needn't waste our time asking you the same question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    I just asked a couple of questions. No need to spin out, they just questions For example. If I ask you "are you a fuckwit?" I am not calling you a fuckwit, just asking if you are a fuckwit or not.

    ...are you a fuckwit?...just asking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...are you a fuckwit?...just asking...
    The problem we (the rest of the world) have, is if enough fuckwits have their say, we end up with Trumps running things, then we'll all pay dearly. And the dopey cunt wonders why I take it so seriously.

    How long have NK been rattling sabers for? What's come of it so far? So yeah...lets go invade them eh!? That'll help world peace no end! I seriously hope he's had a vasectomy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Sure Saddam was quite possibly a dodgy geezer with a penchant for maintaining power at any costs, but the place is way more fucked now that it ever was under Saddam.
    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    I think it's called frustration at your lack of humanity.
    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    How long have NK been rattling sabers for? What's come of it so far? So yeah...lets go invade them eh!? That'll help world peace no end! I seriously hope he's had a vasectomy.
    No one cares about a 5ft nothing, 45 Kg kid running around saying how he's going to beat the shit out of everyone.

    People care when that same kid is running around with a loaded AR saying the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    No risk of them attacking or invading someone if they just get left alone?
    They don't have the capability to invade anyone.

    Just letting the little twerp dictate over his country and let the population sort it out themselves.
    The recent suggestion of the ex SEAL has merit, where a sattelite is placed over the country and provides free wifi access (fuck knows how that could be done, but anyway...) then drop loads of smartphones across the country. Let the population find out what's happening elsewhere in the world without state censorship.

    (The US would fuck everything up by not supplying the right plug to fit their power sockets though...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    No one cares about a 5ft nothing, 45 Kg kid running around saying how he's going to beat the shit out of everyone.

    People care when that same kid is running around with a loaded AR saying the same thing.
    That's simply the never ending march of technology. They were always going to catch up sooner or later. Doesn't mean we need to invade the cunts. Illegally. Like we have everywhere else.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    They don't have the capability to invade anyone.

    Just letting the little twerp dictate over his country and let the population sort it out themselves.
    The recent suggestion of the ex SEAL has merit, where a sattelite is placed over the country and provides free wifi access (fuck knows how that could be done, but anyway...) then drop loads of smartphones across the country. Let the population find out what's happening elsewhere in the world without state censorship.

    (The US would fuck everything up by not supplying the right plug to fit their power sockets though...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    That's simply the never ending march of technology. They were always going to catch up sooner or later. Doesn't mean we need to invade the cunts. Illegally. Like we have everywhere else.
    Indeed - but as the Tech marches on, so does the Ante and so does the stakes.

    And then you have to ask whom do you trust more:

    Someone who (apart from being unlikeable) hasn't really done anything wrong (although one could argue that 'The Apprentice' could be considered a crime against humanity)
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    Someone who murders people with Flak Cannons for falling asleep in a meeting.

    I'll agree with you that America's Foreign policy has a doctorate's worth of case studies, blunders and liberal interpretations of law - but you need to convince me that if the roles were reversed: the US had the armed capability (but retaining it's Freedom) that NK does and NK had the armed Capability that the US has (and retaining it's brutal civilian oppression) - that things would be all sunshine and roses.

    I'd posit that we'd be speaking Korean and we wouldn't be communicating on the Internet or allowed to ride Motorbikes or criticise our Glorious Leader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...are you a fuckwit?...just asking...
    Maybe, depends on your perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    The problem we (the rest of the world) have, is if enough fuckwits have their say, we end up with Trumps running things, then we'll all pay dearly. And the dopey cunt wonders why I take it so seriously.

    How long have NK been rattling sabers for? What's come of it so far? So yeah...lets go invade them eh!? That'll help world peace no end! I seriously hope he's had a vasectomy.
    Believe me, I ain't no trump fan, the man is a dangerous fuckwit (he doesn't need to ask), I just think that sorting nk militarily before the shit really hits the fan may just have a better endgame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post

    I'll agree with you that America's Foreign policy has a doctorate's worth of case studies, blunders and liberal interpretations of law - but you need to convince me that if the roles were reversed: the US had the armed capability (but retaining it's Freedom) that NK does and NK had the armed Capability that the US has (and retaining it's brutal civilian oppression) - that things would be all sunshine and roses.

    I'd posit that we'd be speaking Korean and we wouldn't be communicating on the Internet or allowed to ride Motorbikes or criticise our Glorious Leader.
    This. Their is a risk that the do nothing approach won't end well. To be fair though I am all for apathy, its what has made NZ the cool place that it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
    Their is a risk that the do nothing approach won't end well.
    And there's a far greater risk that America jumping in boots and all will just create yet another clusterfuck.

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