Anorak
It also needs to be pointing out the jewish conspiracy and their shapeshifting lizard overlords or it just isn't kosha............Originally Posted by Voltaire
You can't quote Fox, you need to find some obscure clip on You Tube to show your not a sheeple.
What about the US Sunglasses Monopoly..... MSM is totally ignoring that.
http://nordic.businessinsider.com/co...safilo-2017-8/
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Just faidin away!
How's it going so far then? -
Forum whore
Fox is a joke.
Geriatric hoon
That's a cozy little alternate reality you've constructed. May I suggest in case one of the other cult members offers you a Kool Aid, that you decline his kind offer.
There is a grey blur, and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one. - Joey Dunlop
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Not at all, I'm happy to back every one of those statements:That's a cozy little alternate reality you've constructed. May I suggest in case one of the other cult members offers you a Kool Aid, that you decline his kind offer.
Such as when they took an Audio excerpt where Trump was talking about MS-13 gang members, then judicially edited it, to make it sound like he was calling all Mexicans Animals. That's just one example of a deliberate lie (by ommission) by the MSM about Trump.
Not having WW3 - I'd think that statement was self-evident - but a quick google search shows a myriad of Mainstream publications stating that something Trump is doing or is going to do, will lead to WW3.
Economy is going good - yet a google search with just "Trump Economy collapse" produces multiple opinion pieces about how he's about to usher in something akin to the Great Depression
The Executive orders: Such as this one, to build a wall
And the last one - is the reason for this thread existing.
So pray tell Pritch - exactly WHERE is this "cozy little alternate reality you've constructed" - cause right now, I'm looking at objective facts, in line with what I said....
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Hardcore Biker
http://tass.com/world/1009892
No doubt, more detail will emerge in due course.
Bored Room
Probably after he gets the Peace Prize.
DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.
Hardcore Biker
1. Human Rights and Sanctions
https://www.globalresearch.ca/kims-r...t-next/5644721
A few other points to consider.
2. So What Price Must be Paid
https://www.globalresearch.ca/north-...-peace/5644598
Was interested to see his conclusion. Though it seems he's not the only one.
http://www.atimes.com/article/sexy-m...korean-puzzle/
3. Those Damn Russkies
https://www.eurasiafuture.com/2018/0...port-corridor/
Just not content to play soccer.
Anarchic Wild Child
Of course it has - Trump already has the Nobel Prize - what else could he want?
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
The Majestic Metal Wizard
A better haircut?
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
22 June 2018: After Kim Jong Un returned from his June 12th meeting with the American president in Singapore, senior North Korean officials were ordered to assemble and they were told that the Singapore meeting had been a tremendous success and that the economic problems would soon be solved and there would be no more joint training exercises in South Korea. There was no mention of getting rid of the nukes or the strict verification terms the Americans and South Koreans were demanding. Kim Jong Un has not said anything in public or for broadcast yet.
Worse was that no mention was made in North Koreans media that denuclearization and verification were the key demands of the Americans and have not been withdrawn. News of what really happened in Singapore will slowly but inevitably get into North Korea and spread. So Kim Jong Un has a short window (a few weeks) to correct his propaganda minions or face some serious blowback from the Americans and South Koreans. This time around North Korea must perform (and allow that to be continually verified) or there will be no payoff and North Korea will continue down its death spiral. People will look more towards the donju (market entrepreneurs) and disregard their own government as an obstacle to salvation rather than an agent of beneficial reform.
After returning from Singapore Kim did not have to worry about what his subordinates would be told. That had been decided before he left. What Kim did have to concentrate on his visit to China on the 19th, which is as important as the meeting with the American leader.
Kim Jong Un travelled to China on the 19th using his elderly Il-62 jet, which Kim had never used before (but other senior officials have) rather than using his private train. This trip was more open (to media) and relaxed than the last few. This is the second visit to China this year. The trip to Singapore was his first use of air travel since he took power. His father and grandfather also avoided air travel. The might have something to do with North Korean Cold War era efforts to plant bombs on aircraft used by South Korean leaders.
These days the aversion to air travel has more to do with fear of a coup by military leaders who have a long list of grievances against the Kim dynasty. The details of how this worked during the Singapore trip took more than a week to get outside North Korea. The first signs were the fact that Kim took two senior army leaders with him. He had never taken these fellows to China for his visits with the Chinese leader. Why take them to Singapore? It was another example of the old saying; “keep your friends close and your enemies closer”.
Kim has a lot of enemies in the military leadership because this privileged group has suffered more loss than any other segment of the senior leadership (the few percent of the population that keeps the Kims in power and lives well because of their services).
In order to keep the ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs going the military has suffered the most obvious budget cuts during a period of continuing economic stagnation. For the troops, this means little or no new equipment and less fuel, food and other resources to keep the million troops going.
The dire poverty is creeping up the chain of command and the senior military leaders have to deal with more and more unrest in the ranks. Over the last few years, the reductions in food and fuel for the military have led to widespread hunger and low morale in most units. The junior and mid-level officers report the problems (and complain to each other) and notice that lower ranking officers and their families are now suffering from shortages and this privation is slowly moving upwards. Kim is aware of all this because his secret police are well taken care of and maintain a nationwide network of informants. This includes informants within the military and every military unit. So before he left Kim ordered the secret police to put eyes on a long list of senior military officers and to take their cell phones from these generals until he got back. Home leaves for all troops were cancelled while Kim was out of the country and the secret police informants in the military were ordered to report any suspicious move by officers immediately. Those under surveillance knew what was going on and behaved. Kim came back, his prepared propaganda declaring his success was rolled out and he got ready to visit China without all the precautions used for the Singapore trip.
Kim has replaced most of the senior military leaders since he took over in 2012 but knows the pool of potential replacements was full of unhappy officers who were not turned into pro-Kim officers with a promotion or two. The problem was that all officers start off as privates and must prove themselves as an enlisted soldier before becoming an officer. The junior officers (lieutenants and captains) command company size units (about 100 troops) and generally leave the military after ten years or so unless they get some promotions. The NCOs in the company size units also tend to get out after their ten years are up. These officers and NCOs have a lot in common and usually work closely together. These junior officers are suffering the most from the growing food shortages. The junior officers can get married the NCOs cannot and even though officers receive more food they have been getting less of it. The anger among the junior officers is noted by the mid-level officers (battalion and brigade commanders and staff officers) and these mid-level officers can identify with the junior officers.
This anger about the shortages and the measures taken (theft from local civilians, selling army equipment, taking bribes) to cope are seen as corrosive. These illegal practices are now so widespread that they are rarely punished and considered a matter of life and death for some units stationed in rural areas where the farmers have suffered from poor harvests. Many officers are desperate and often ask (among themselves) how their leaders could treat the defenders of the nation so badly. No wonder Kim Jong Un is so worried about his military. He cannot threaten his angry soldiers with nuclear weapons and he cannot risk a widespread “purge” of “subversive elements” because so many troops qualify as “subversive” because of their attitudes and desperate situation. Put more simply the military force Kim Jong Un fears most is his own, not the Chinese, American or South Koreans.
In North Korea, most people don’t know or care about the nuclear weapons. Basic needs like food, fuel and education for their children are more immediate issues. Among the North Koreans working in China (who often speak “off the record”) and the donju (entrepreneurs) and senior officials in North Korea know about the denuclearization and either back keeping the nukes or believe that giving up the nukes would bring more economic reforms as well as foreign aid and investment. The nukes are simply not as big an issue for most North Koreans because so many are living on the edge as a result of shortages.
North Korea also takes for granted that the news of peace talks is just more state propaganda and means nothing unless something actually happens to make their lives better. A growing number of North Korea see better trade relations with South Korea and the most worthy goal, especially if it led to reunification and North Koreans living as well as South Koreas. A growing number of North Koreans are learning that South Koreans are even wealthier than the Chinese and that knowledge involves a degree of national pride because China has always been a potential threat to Korea.
Since all the peace talk activity began in May China has greatly reduced border security. There are far fewer police and soldiers patrolling the border and China based smugglers are back in business. On the North Korean side of the border security has been increased. But North Korea security personnel are easier to bribe, so with fewer problems on the Chinese side the smugglers are back in business. There has also been more legitimate commerce with more North Korean going to China on business or to work.
The meeting between the two (north and south) Korean leaders in April was mostly about good will because both sides agreed the real work on a peace deal would come with the meeting between the North Korean and American leader in June and, more importantly, the meetings between senior American and North Korean officials to work out details on what their heads of state would agree to at Singapore on June 12th.
China has assured the United States that China wants North Korean nukes gone but China is in a better position (politically, culturally and physically) to work out and enforce the details of denuclearization. The Americans insist on CVID (Complete, Verifiable, Irreversible Denuclearization) and the Chinese say they agree. But it appears there will be no detailed timetable for the entire process, even though the Americans and South Koreans don’t want to start shipping aid to North Korea before they have something verifiable to show for it.
This part could get messy on several levels but at least the Americans have an experienced negotiator. The lead U.S. negotiator is the American Secretary of State who was previously the head of the CIA. This puts the North Koreans on the defensive since none of their usual negotiating stunts will work. At the very least this will speed the process along, whether it is succeeding or not. The U.S. negotiator is to visit the two Koreas before the end of June. Working closely with South Korea is important because the South Koreans have excellent intel on what is going on inside North Korea and the South Koreans have to sign off on many of the negotiating goals (especially those covering South Korean aid).
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
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Flip flop flip flop Donald today? - or tomorrow?https://stephenlendman.org/2018/06/t...uclear-threat/ what will it be?
Hardcore Biker
What More Could You Want ?
https://www.globalresearch.ca/washin...n-list/5646853
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Is there anybody left in the world who can not now see clearly who are the real world wide terrorists?
Is the US now ‘The’ Rogue Nation on the planet? - https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/0...on-the-planet/
Hardcore Biker
Trump has been a little busy recently, what with NATO, the UK visit and
then Helsinki. In the meantime, others have been using the time getting
ready for possible NK re-integration.
http://www.atimes.com/article/a-kimd...n-to-business/
You never know. NK and SK may just come to some "agreement" independent
of the US, assuming SK military and politicians have the willingness to do so -
and the fortitude to risk being sanctioned by the US.
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