North Korea

[TheDemonLord]

No. I mean talk utter shit.

There you go again, typing one thing initially, then saying you meant something else...

[TheDemonLord]

I suspect it's Stephen Joyce posting in his spare time.....

Curses! I've been outed!



















Oh wait, No, No I haven't.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So, in a choice between Genocide and Armed Intervention - you've indicated that armed intervention is the least preferable option. By that extension (considering this is a Binary choice) that means that Genocide has a higher preference.

Either what you meant isn't what you typed or maybe the thick person isn't who you think it is.

As I said..yep. You're the thick cunt. What I ACTUALLY said, was I'd far rather they not be killed by us.




First off - no Weapons system is 100% reliable - so will we be able to blow it out of the sky? last I looked, the tech being tested had an 80% success rate - and when the risk of failure would most likely be a death toll in excess of a Million people - you want to play those odds?

Can you tell me how many times Israel has been hit by rockets and/or missiles of late?

Do you know if they have developed MRV - I believe the current Trident's are capable of having up to 10 MRVs, each one supposed to be around the 100 Kt mark - so with an 80% success rate - that's 2 100 Kt warheads getting through - that's the equivelent of 16 Hiroshimas.

I see the word *if* here.

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If Iraq had WOMD, we may've been ok in invading them. Yeah...still nah.

[Crasherfromwayback]

- can you point to a Communist regime that didn't end up as a brutal dictatorship with a failed economy?

Nothing - because once it embraced some of the principles of Capitalism, it was only THEN that it became a world power.

Pure Communism went till about 1978, the result? Millions dead from Starvation (see the Great Leap forward and the Great Chinese Famine)

After 1978 when they allowed Private enterprise, Foreign investment and de-collectivized Agriculture, it's now a weird bastardized hybrid.

TL;DR - Communism failed so badly it needed Capitalism to rescue it.

Fuck me, do you even History?

Not to mention the whole Brutal Dictatorship of Chairman Mao...

Which failed, miserably, until rescued by Capitalism.

Considering one of the key tenants of Communism is collective ownership and a rejection of capitalist private enterprise, you can't have both - which is why they are referred to as a Socialist state.

Both instances (Vietnam and China) went through a period of a Failed economy with brutal repression at the hands of Dictators.

Perhaps it is you who needs to go back and read the question again.

If by twist everything you mean "point out reality" - then sure...

There you go again, typing one thing initially, then saying you meant something else...

Ummmm...that would seem to be your gig by the look of it eh?

[TheDemonLord]

Ummmm...that would seem to be your gig by the look of it eh?

Sure - if you completely ignore the History of Chairman Mao's China and the Great Chinese famine...

or that Vietnam prior to initiating Capitalist reforms couldn't pay it's way in the world and had inflation of about 700%.

or Ho Chi Minhs land grab with the accompanying edict of executing 1 in 1000 people.

Both of those countries had failed Economies, Food shortages, and Dictators with a penchant for execution and repression.

Both of them then allowed a little bit of Capitalism in (so breaking with some of the core communist principles) and their economies have been growing ever since.

[Crasherfromwayback]

can you point to a Communist regime that didn't end up as a brutal dictatorship with a failed economy?

China?

Vietnam's doing pretty well for themselves..

Your original question, with two correct answers.

There you go again, typing one thing initially, then saying you meant something else...

Sure - if you completely ignore the History of Chairman Mao's China and the Great Chinese famine...

or that Vietnam prior to initiating Capitalist reforms couldn't pay it's way in the world and had inflation of about 700%.

or Ho Chi Minhs land grab with the accompanying edict of executing 1 in 1000 people.

Both of those countries had failed Economies, Food shortages, and Dictators with a penchant for execution and repression.

Both of them then allowed a little bit of Capitalism in (so breaking with some of the core communist principles) and their economies have been growing ever since.

This is how you waffle on, twist shit to try and save your butt, but look even sillier after the dust settles.

So, again...you try to come across as oh so intelligent, but realistically, you're a friendless nerd with too much time on his hands that reads too much, but lacks a basic grasp of what it is you're actually reading.

But please do keep trying. If at first you don't succeed and all that.

I'm off to do a bit of photography, so sorry if you feel ignored.

[Murray]

Bullshit. How many countries have they invaded or attacked since WWII?

Hahaha...yeah! My money's on the lil fella simply wanting the Yanks to know he can nuke 'em if they get fancy. But either way, should the queer cunt launch one first, not like they can't blow it out of the sky before any real damage is done. Then feel free to attack the cunt. Till then, leave them be.

Hey Mr History Professor! What is the only country that's ever used an atomic bomb on innocent civilians? My memory is failing me...

Ooooh. How profound! Another question for you. If the worlds biggest bully (who just happens to have a habit of invading other counties for their belongings), was very heavily armed with a huge nuclear arsenal, would you yourself want to have access to the same weapons? And if that very same bully tried to tell you you weren't allowed them, what would you do? Serious question.

If Iraq had WOMD, we may've been ok in invading them. Yeah...still nah.

All very good and OK some good points but tell me how would you feel if they were sending missiles over NZ as a means of testing them. Like they have done with Japan which no-one seems to have mentioned

[TheDemonLord]

Your original question, with two correct answers.

Except they aren't - cause both countries ended up as failed economies, headed by a Dictator until they stopped following the edicts of Marx/Lenin and allowed some form of Free Market capitalism.

That's the key bit that you are ignoring and then trying to claim that you are right.

I'll spell it out for you real simple like:

Free market Capitalism and Communism cannot co-exist. They are the polar opposites of each other.

Socialism, however CAN exist in a Free Market Capitalist state.

The moment that both countries stopped being Communist by allowing private enterprise (which is in direct conflict with the fundamental tenant of Communism) they changed into a Socialist state.

If it makes you happy - the Communist party is still in power, but a Communist country, they ain't.

To quote the Bearded bastard himself:

In Communism, the Workers own the means of Production

If you've got private ownership of business - you don't have Communism.

This is how you waffle on, twist shit to try and save your butt, but look even sillier after the dust settles.

So, again...you try to come across as oh so intelligent, but realistically, you're a friendless nerd with too much time on his hands that reads too much, but lacks a basic grasp of what it is you're actually reading.

But please do keep trying. If at first you don't succeed and all that.

I'm off to do a bit of photography, so sorry if you feel ignored.

Good for you - Maybe instead of throwing insults and taking pictures, you could read a book or two...




but if you did that, you might be dangerous

[Crasherfromwayback]

but tell me how would you feel if they were sending missiles over NZ as a means of testing them. Like they have done with Japan which no-one seems to have mentioned

Very nervous. But I still don't think I'd automatically want to bomb/invade them like Old Demon Lard.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Good for you - Maybe instead of throwing insults and taking pictures, you could read a book or two...




but if you did that, you might be dangerous

No way. I've seen what too much reading has done for you. And as far as photography goes, bet you wrote the book on that too. I must say though, seeing you dig yourself into a corner, then try to fight your way out is well fucking funny. So please, carry on.

And I could be dangerous? Nah, that's simple cunts like yourself, that let mainstream Western media get your panties in a bunch so badly,that you think the boogy man is coming to get you, so we'd best invade/bomb him first.

So so intelligent ain't ya!

[jasonu]

Very nervous. But I still don't think I'd automatically want to bomb/invade them like Old Demon Lard.

So you would wait for them to actually drop one on Wellington before doing something about it?

[Crasherfromwayback]

So you would wait for them to actually drop one on Wellington before doing something about it?

Dude...you're giving yourself nightmares. Here, have a soothing song for bedtime...


https://www.facebook.com/RareAndStra...K1mRUT03yI6MBU

[Grumph]

So you would wait for them to actually drop one on Wellington before doing something about it?

Well the rest of NZ would - but it's a tossup between there or Auckland....

[ellipsis]

bet you wrote the book on that too.

[TheDemonLord]

No way. I've seen what too much reading has done for you.

Wow. I don't think even Yokel has made a statement that Stupid. And it's stupid on so many different levels.

And as far as photography goes, bet you wrote the book on that too.

On the Contrary - I have zero interest, skill or expertise in that realm.

I must say though, seeing you dig yourself into a corner, then try to fight your way out is well fucking funny. So please, carry on.

Is that more or less Funny than watching people ignore the parts of history that prove them wrong, in order to maintain their narrative?

And I could be dangerous? Nah, that's simple cunts like yourself, that let mainstream Western media get your panties in a bunch so badly,that you think the boogy man is coming to get you, so we'd best invade/bomb him first.

Sure thing Neville Chamberlain...

However, of interesting note - is that you prattle on like an empty can about 'The MSM' - but you would know that most of our current media has a distinct left-wing bias - and even THEY call out North Korea, that should be a hint of how bad North Korea is, that even closet communists say bad things about it.

So so intelligent ain't ya!

Anytime you want to take an IQ test, I'll be here.