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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    I think you might have to a read up on German and Russian tanks

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    Why did they bomb Nagasaki?

    Among talk of modern atomic weapon assaults threats and or attacks, there is much to consider of past history of such events.

    Some may be interested in what were the drivers of such events? :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=ceFJ6I5awms

    Interesting for those who may be (or not) interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Tank production WW2

    Italy 4573
    Takes a long time to build a tank with 15 reverse gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Takes a long time to build a tank with 15 reverse gears.
    Thats why they made such nice bevel engines and gearboxes....

    Husy forgot New Zealand Tank Production figures.

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    The Bob Semple tank. ( this probably belongs in the NZ is a backwater shithole thread)

    Armour would have stopped a German stein easily. I doubt its in Te Papa.







    Oh and google this Battle of Caporetto, its in Slovenia now and worth a visit as WW 2 rolled thru there later on. probably explains why Italy were not as keen on

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    Just a couple of comments ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    ... The PZ 3 had a 50mm gun but the PZ4 had a 74 and was the mainstay of the wehrmacht for the war. ...
    The gun on the IV was 75 mm. Initially low velocity short barreled (they originally didn't like the gun to stick out beyond the tank chassis), as the IV was more for infantry support, and the III was intended for tank vs tank. Though longer barrels later made the 50 mm on the III more effective (in the desert the Allies called it the "special"), it was the ability to up-gun the IV (bigger turret ring possible) with higher velocity longer barreled 75 mm guns that helped keep it in production for the whole war (though outclassed by many of its opponents by the end) as the III and IV sort of swapped roles.

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    ... The King Tiger was a Porsche design and not very good, they became Elefant gun platforms. ...
    No, the Elefant was what they did with left over chassis from Porsch's attempt to win the Tiger (VI) contract. The King Tiger was something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Thats why they made such nice bevel engines and gearboxes....

    Husy forgot New Zealand Tank Production figures.

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    The Bob Semple tank. ( this probably belongs in the NZ is a backwater shithole thread)

    Armour would have stopped a German stein easily. I doubt its in Te Papa.


    Oh and google this Battle of Caporetto, its in Slovenia now and worth a visit as WW 2 rolled thru there later on. probably explains why Italy were not as keen on

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    Bert Munro Build a cannon for WW1 he buried it after then reserected for WW2.
    It was in true Bert style made from an old steam pipe with a wire wrapped breach. But it worked.
    He tested it once and killed a neighbours cow as the story goes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Takes a long time to build a tank with 15 reverse gears.
    They used the same system as the French.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Takes a long time to build a tank with 15 reverse gears.
    ... and being built by Italians, there would have been the normal reliability of the electrics...
    Quote Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
    The gun on the IV was 75 mm. ... as the IV was more for infantry support, and the III was intended for tank vs tank.
    The tactics were completely different in the opening stages of the war as well.
    The German tanks were dispersed among infantry as as part of the standard units and were intended to support them. Only later did the tanks get grouped together for massed fighting as "panzer divisions".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Takes a long time to build a tank with 15 reverse gears.
    Funny you should say that....

    For a short time I owned a WW2 Daimler Dingo armoured car. Although it was really more of a scout car as opposed to the later bigger turreted one. It was a very successful design and I think in production all of WW2 but over shadowed by the Jeep.

    However these things had a very clever H drive system with bevel drives at each wheel (dead clever actually and for once they were reasonably reliable too - leaked a fair bit ). There was a Daimler 6 in the back driving through their excellent fluid flywheel to a pre selector gearbox to a transfer case. There was a separate gearbox that gave 5 forward speeds, neutral and 5 reverse speeds... So - not only the Italians had multi speed reverse...

    There was a later version made in Canada using a Ford V8 which was more powerful but it was bigger, heavier and noisier none of which are ideal for scouting missions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    The tactics were completely different in the opening stages of the war as well.
    The German tanks were dispersed among infantry as as part of the standard units and were intended to support them. Only later did the tanks get grouped together for massed fighting as "panzer divisions".
    I think you'll find the Germans did use their tanks in "panzer divisions" at the start of the war.
    The French and British had more tanks but only used them as infantry support.

    If I recall correctly the germans had been planning/developing the whole blitzkreig thing for years before the war started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whynot View Post
    I think you'll find the Germans did use their tanks in "panzer divisions" at the start of the war.
    The French and British had more tanks but only used them as infantry support.

    If I recall correctly the germans had been planning/developing the whole blitzkreig thing for years before the war started.
    Well, they tested their tank tactics during the Spanish Civil war in 1936, which proved that their ideas were good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whynot View Post
    I think you'll find the Germans did use their tanks in "panzer divisions" at the start of the war.

    If I recall correctly the germans had been planning/developing the whole blitzkreig thing for years before the war started.
    Yes, trials and exercises were conducted in Russia prior to the war, but the knowledgeable gentlemen at the Bovington Tank Museum state that up to and including the Battle of France, tanks were used as part of an infantry unit.
    I take their research as a bit more informed, since they are the experts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Yes, trials and exercises were conducted in Russia prior to the war, but the knowledgeable gentlemen at the Bovington Tank Museum state that up to and including the Battle of France, tanks were used as part of an infantry unit.
    I take their research as a bit more informed, since they are the experts.
    As much as I hate to quote Wikipedia ....
    "The first three panzer divisions were formed on 15 October 1935"

    10 Panzer Divisions were involved in the Battle of France.

    I guess it depends on what you define as an "infantry unit" as these divisions had a large amount of motorised infantry included.
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    Meanwhile back to North Korea?

    Food for thought? - who is actually the real historical aggressor here? - - how many countries has North Korea invaded compared to the USA and it's allies?

    While US, North Korea Both Make Threats, Only One Has Killed Millions of the Other’s People http://fair.org/home/while-us-north-...others-people/ -

    Remembering that formally they are "still at war"!

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    you so light old lider we so lucky we no speak japanese because of yankee agressor


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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray View Post
    you so light old lider we so lucky we no speak japanese because of yankee agressor
    Yeah well that's understandable - try to do more research on the "WHY"! (I am extremely appreciative of the valiant servicemen and women that saved our lives)

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