North Korea

[Crasherfromwayback]

Then what?

If every country was to leave every other country alone - would you be satisfied?



Would you be happy if one of those despotic regimes then reasoned that "Fuck it - the US isn't going to do shit, lets go and settle some scores with our Neighbours"?



.

Make up your mind.

[TheDemonLord]

Make up your mind.

Look at the statements again - one leads to the other.

No one or country is ever able to leave another completely alone.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Look at the statements again - one leads to the other.

No one or country is ever able to leave another completely alone.

Yeah I know what you were saying. I'm simply saying if every cunt left each other alone...there need be no *B*.

[Katman]

And for those that will quibble about what I mean by Tyranny:

Torture used as part of the judicial and extra-judicial processes.

Like at Guantanamo?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Like at Guantanamo?

Nah. That's ok...because it's us doing it.

[TheDemonLord]

Like at Guantanamo?

Comparing Guantanamo to the various institutions I'm referring to is like comparing Saturday morning's under 6 Rippa Rugby match with The All Blacks vs Australia in the Webb Ellis final.

I don't remember any reports of inmates being vivisected at Guantanamo or being parrilla'd or having bits hacked off with Machetes.

[TheDemonLord]

Yeah I know what you were saying. I'm simply saying if every cunt left each other alone...there need be no *B*.

"No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. "

[Katman]

Let's not forget that Donald Trump (along with two thirds of the American public) supports the use of torture.

[TheDemonLord]

Nah. That's ok...because it's us doing it.

Guantanamo isn't okay - I'm not down with Waterboarding, I'm not down with being held indefinitely without trial.

But as above - compared to other institutions - Guantanamo is Torture light or Diet Torture - and if I had to choose one, it's by far the most humane and preferable.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Guantanamo isn't okay - I'm not down with Waterboarding, I'm not down with being held indefinitely without trial.

But as above - compared to other institutions - Guantanamo is Torture light or Diet Torture - and if I had to choose one, it's by far the most humane and preferable.

Well this bit "Guantanamo is Torture light or Diet Torture - and if I had to choose one, it's by far the most humane and preferable", is like you trying to say I was ok with genocide. Eh.

[TheDemonLord]

Let's not forget that Donald Trump (along with two thirds of the American public) support the use of torture.

There's a key qualifier that you've left off of that statement.

That's a tad dishonest.

Afterall, you've presented it that they support the use of Torture against Anyone - but that's not true, is it?

And whilst I can sympathize with the resentment that has caused people to think this way, There's a quote which I can't remember who said it - but the context was WW2, I believe from an English officer, after seeing someone strike a prisoner:

"Once you touch a Man, you cannot trust anything that he says"

[TheDemonLord]

Well this bit "Guantanamo is Torture light or Diet Torture - and if I had to choose one, it's by far the most humane and preferable", is like you trying to say I was ok with genocide. Eh.

Except it isn't - The choice I gave you was Armed Conflict vs Genocide - you indicated you liked Armed Conflict less - therefore Genocide was a more preferable option

In this case I'm comparing Guantanamo with other institutions known to have engaged in Torture and saying of those options - Guantanamo is the lease bad.

The choice I gave you was Binary - one or the other
The choice I identified above was on a continuum - same thing, different degrees of severity.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Except it isn't - The choice I gave you was Armed Conflict vs Genocide - you indicated you liked Armed Conflict less - therefore Genocide was a more preferable option

In this case I'm comparing Guantanamo with other institutions known to have engaged in Torture and saying of those options - Guantanamo is the lease bad.

The choice I gave you was Binary - one or the other
The choice I identified above was on a continuum - same thing, different degrees of severity.

Fuck you talk shit.

[TheDemonLord]

Fuck you talk shit.

A bike vs a Car (one or the other - Binary choice)
A 125 cc bike compared with all the range of engine choices within the category of bikes (a Continuum)

[Crasherfromwayback]

A bike vs a Car (one or the other - Binary choice)
A 125 cc bike compared with all the range of engine choices within the category of bikes (a Continuum)

You can't help yourself. You need one of these.