Future Disruption

[Oakie]

How will we power the ever growing fleet of planes as we phase out fossil fuels? And what is being done about the pollution they create unchecked?

Funny. There was an article on the news just last night about someone working on creating an electric passenger plane. True story!

[ellipsis]

...30 years back our little town had a street light...now it's got at least 5......

[BMWST?]

the thermal efficiency of an IC engine is pathetic its only around 20 percent,diesels can be 40 percent.Very modern petrol engines are better, some say up to 40 percent

[eldog]

...30 years back our little town had a street light...now it's got at least 5......

Funny. There was an article on the news just last night about someone working on creating an electric passenger plane. True story!

Hey. watch it, Lake Coleridge is about 20 minutes up the road - and one of the two major substations in Canterbury is 1 1/2km the other way...
When they perfect power transmission and receipt by tapping the emitted energy, I could probably just park across the road.
It's already rumoured that the sheep run in the substation grounds, glow in the dark....

the thermal efficiency of an IC engine is pathetic its only around 20 percent,diesels can be 40 percent.Very modern petrol engines are better, some say up to 40 percent ....

well that's the Sth Island for you

From memory the most expensive LV power was always right next to the power station

There was a program on recently about Tesla's power transmitter - cant remember if it was 'Abandoned Engineering Structures'?

[Woodman]

well that's the Sth Island for you

From memory the most expensive LV power was always right next to the power station

There was a program on recently about Tesla's power transmitter - cant remember if it was 'Abandoned Engineering Structures'?

Please don't mention Teslas power transmitter. You will wake up the resident conspiracy fuckwits.

[eldog]

Please don't mention Teslas power transmitter. You will wake up the resident conspiracy fuckwits.

We got one on the go on another thread. Party time

[Laava]

Please don't mention Teslas power transmitter. You will wake up the resident conspiracy fuckwits.

I know what you mean...my mate was telling me about his mates electric car (brand unimportant in this case!) that uses regenerative energy to recharge the batteries and is so efficient that it is putting out more power than it needs to complete it's journey! But he is reluctant to tell too many people cos he's heard of people going "missing" in similar circumstances! I'm gonna wait till he's pissed and get him to explain it to me again and I'll video it!

[jellywrestler]

...30 years back our little town had a street light...now it's got at least 5......

yeah but they'll be led and five will use half what the old one did...

[jellywrestler]

It's already rumoured that the sheep run in the substation grounds, glow in the dark....

That's the ones they're pimping out, marketing ploy, and so the locals know what sheep is the best fuck

[Grumph]

There was a program on recently about Tesla's power transmitter - cant remember if it was 'Abandoned Engineering Structures'?

Yeah, it was. But what I was referring to was on a news item some time back where you simply drove your EV into a dock where it received a charge from radiating elements in the floor. No physical connection. Gawd knows what the power requirements are to drive that....#

Oh and the street light in Ellipsis's town would have been an oil light originally - so besides the current ones using less power as Jelly so rightly says - there's one less job in the town as well...

# or, on thinking about it, what would happen to anything organic that got in the way.....

[mashman]

Please don't mention Teslas power transmitter. You will wake up the resident conspiracy fuckwits.

A couple of these and a fuckload of these perhaps

[Woodman]

A couple of these and a fuckload of these perhaps

What have those links got to do with Tesla (the original guy not a branding exercise) claiming he could transmit electricity across the continent wirelessly?

[R650R]

Brace yourself, I recently happened across how the neo liberal greenie socialist dictators reckon its going to work.

You WILL ALWAYS have your vehicle plugged into a charging dock when not in use at home, work or town. This will be LAW and you will be an infrastructure terrorist outlaw if you refuse to comply.
While your vehicle is plugged into the charging dock, once fully charged or deemed by authorities to have 'enough' power it will bleed power back out to charge other nearby units if the grid cant keep up.
There will be a social media campaign to liken non compliant users to the same selfishness as parking in handicaop spacers.
Your smart meter will detect that your car is at home and start switching off/denying you your other appliances until you plug the car in. Also the authorities will determine what you run via smart meter during peak grid loading times. Non essential use such as computer, games macvhines, tv's etc will be remotely switched off to limit demand.

Never mind that in NZ only about 65% of our energy is hydro, rest is coal/oil/gas burning. Wind is a net loss enviromentally if you factor in the power stations pooled up wasting power capacity to balance grid incase wind drops (you cant just suddenly run out of electricity, it damages the distribution infrastructure with sudden load changes). And then theres all the construction and maintainance activity, limited lifespans compared to other generation sources, many turbines are failing after 15 years service. Also turbine gearboxes have anywhere from 60-400L of transmission oil in them and the oil is at limits of technology dealing with massive shear loadings.

Anyhow the worlds biggest superpower will still need oil, the US military is the single biggest user outright. And when you absolutely,positively have to invade some beaten up third world dictatorship (that probably doesnt have a functional electric network) you are going to invade and stop halfway to recharge.

Petroleum products are a stable transferable energy item able to be moved in bulk fast to where its needed anywhere in the world at short notice. I think its a pipe dream sic to think its will be toatlly gone. There are also other by products distilled during refining that are needed for plastics and other industrys too. Not to mention the left over gunk that gets put on our roads and made into bunker fuel for ships.....

[Akzle]

What have those links got to do with Tesla (the original guy not a branding exercise) claiming he could transmit electricity across the continent wirelessly?

that would be a tesla coil.
main problem is the current requirements. the place is wired for lvac. and it's hvac. and it would ionise the atmosphere like a motherfucker.

there's also the whole "randomly arcing to ground through, like, people and shit" problem to be overcome.

[mashman]

What have those links got to do with Tesla (the original guy not a branding exercise) claiming he could transmit electricity across the continent wirelessly?

Nothing, other than power generation, hence the tongue emoji thingymajig.