Road toll - Police stupid obsession blaming speed

**Moi** · 12th February 2018, 10:40

Okay, I know that a few of you drive heavy vehicles for a living - petrol tankers, cement trucks and so on. So this question is for you, in light of the repeated comment that your vehicles have blind spots.

If you are parked at the side of the road in your heavy vehicle - such as a bus would be at a bus stop - and I am approaching your vehicle from the rear and I can see your mirror[s] on the right hand side, would you see me provided you did more than a quick glance in your mirror?

**caseye** · 12th February 2018, 10:51

If you don''t reply to IT, it will die on the vine.
Having said that, IT will not be allowed to continue spouting dangerous and seriously bad opinion or fake facts for much longer, if we could all just literally not reply, even if it means biting everything off and sitting on your hands.

**EJK** · 12th February 2018, 11:10

Originally Posted by cassina

I hate to disappoint you but I actually have more fans on here than you think as I remember a few weeks ago I posted that I would not be on here for a few days and I got replys from some saying they would miss me or words to that effect. Maybe because they would get bored with no one to debate with for a few days as I am the only one brave enough to enter into debate on this site.

**Akzle** · 12th February 2018, 11:22

Originally Posted by riffer

It's time to do something Cassina. Will you step up to the plate and take that challenge? Call Dave now. He's been at the Burt Monro for the last few days so he'll be in a good mood.

good call on ignoring the twit. i've offered to PAY to have his riding assessed, but no. all bullshit and no backbone.

Originally Posted by cassina

say they can prevent you from coming to grief as a result of the actions of others

quote it. once. quote where one person has ever said that.

YOU FUCKWIT.

Originally Posted by Moi

Okay, I know that a few of you drive heavy vehicles for a living - petrol tankers, cement trucks and so on. So this question is for you, in light of the repeated comment that your vehicles have blind spots.

If you are parked at the side of the road in your heavy vehicle - such as a bus would be at a bus stop - and I am approaching your vehicle from the rear and I can see your mirror[s] on the right hand side, would you see me provided you did more than a quick glance in your mirror?

yes. but also, "more than quick glance" - look and watch, few seconds. but also, headchecks.

**Akzle** · 12th February 2018, 11:28

Originally Posted by cassina

I hate to disappoint you but I actually have more fans on here than you think as I remember a few weeks ago I posted that I would not be on here for a few days and I got replys from some saying they would miss me or words to that effect. Maybe because they would get bored with no one to debate with for a few days as I am the only one brave enough to enter into debate on this site.

no-one is "debating" with you fuckwit. they're telling you you're wrong. because you are. and you're a massive fuckwit.

**pritch** · 12th February 2018, 11:45

Originally Posted by cassina

No I do not need a lesson from a riding school because in a situation where another party is at fault it is them and not you that controls the speed and distance they are from you when they screw up and it comes down to luck as to whether they give you any time to avoid them or not.

If there is to be a crash it will be the result of the actions of everybody involved. You can't control anyone else's actions, you can only control your own, but you can allow for the actions of others. Most times that won't involve speeding up.

Only somewhat relevant, but I was riding my AJS to work one day in bumper to bumper traffic. The face of a guy standing at a bus stop lit up in recognition at a driver of one of the cars. I hit the brakes and pulled in to the curb. If nothing had happened I might have looked a bit silly, but the driver who recognised the guy in the bus stop jammed his brakes on and there was a multiple car pile up beside where I was sitting. But for my reaction I would have been in the middle of that.

I could have ignored the "at fault" parties, but the fact that I didn't may have contributed to the fact that I didn't spend the last 57 years in a wheel chair.

**Woodman** · 12th February 2018, 12:01

Originally Posted by cassina

I hate to disappoint you but I actually have more fans on here than you think as I remember a few weeks ago I posted that I would not be on here for a few days and I got replys from some saying they would miss me or words to that effect. Maybe because they would get bored with no one to debate with for a few days as I am the only one brave enough to enter into debate on this site.

Um only for the entertainment value.

**Akzle** · 12th February 2018, 12:59

Originally Posted by cassina

But I have had actual "no fault" crash experience which puts me above all the riding school "theorists" on here including you fuckwit.

you're a fuckwit.

**Akzle** · 12th February 2018, 13:00

Originally Posted by cassina

There would be pros and cons doing that too as I have heard/read stories over the years where guys take their eye off the road to look at a hot chick (as an example) standing on the footpath and end up rear ending the car in front. If following a motorbike in my car I always allow a longer following distance because some can go down "out of the blue" and that actually happened when I was following one. I did not need to emergency brake because of the extra following distance I had allowed.

you're a fuckwit

**Swoop** · 12th February 2018, 14:13

Originally Posted by cassina

But I have had actual "no fault" crash experience which puts me above all the riding school "theorists" on here including you fuckwit.

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**EJK** · 12th February 2018, 14:15

Originally Posted by cassina

But I have had actual "no fault" crash experience which puts me above all the riding school "theorists" on here including you fuckwit.

Preach it, Keith!

**nzspokes** · 12th February 2018, 16:00

Originally Posted by cassina

I hate to disappoint you but I actually have more fans on here than you think

Google Stockholm Syndrome.

**crack** · 12th February 2018, 16:01

Originally Posted by Akzle

no-one is "debating" with you fuckwit. they're telling you you're wrong. because you are. and you're a massive fuckwit.

Akzle, to rear end Cassina, she may see you coming in her mirror, but if you approach quick in her blind spot!

**crack** · 12th February 2018, 16:05

Originally Posted by Akzle

you're a fuckwit.

No logic and no fooking sense:

Akzle can sort you out.

**nzspokes** · 12th February 2018, 16:06

Originally Posted by riffer

Tell you what. Give David Keilty a ring. His phone number is 021 168 6320. He is the man in charge of the RideForever system in New Zealand. Tell him Simon Gotlieb suggested you call him. Explain to him why you think that the riding instructors in this country have got it all wrong and explain your ideas on how motorcycle safety could be done better.

That made me LOL, she would have to back herself up then. Not going to happen. Same with the going for testing, sadly she is all that is wrong with riders currently.

But it is encouraging how many are taking the training and getting benefit from it. I have not heard anybody say they have not got a thing from the Ride Forever program.

im trying to get to the Auckland event if I can and will say hello.