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    Touch pad infotainment systems aren't going to improve matters either.
    "Statistics are used as a drunk uses lampposts - for support, not illumination."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    My gut feeling is that its not the ones driving newer cars you need to watch out for.
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    Dunno about that - I know of an incident or two caused by incompetents adjusting shit on the touch screen in the centre of the dash

    They have to look 'cos no buttons to do it by touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffyd View Post
    Touch pad infotainment systems aren't going to improve matters either.
    Plus 4 million.

    It's against the law to play with your phone, but plenty legal to spend as much time as you like playing with your in-car infotainment system.

    Dumb rules.

    Followed a bloke the other day watching the Argentina FIFA football game on a tablet on his dashboard. Sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Plus 4 million.

    It's against the law to play with your phone, but plenty legal to spend as much time as you like playing with your in-car infotainment system.

    Dumb rules.

    Followed a bloke the other day watching the Argentina FIFA football game on a tablet on his dashboard. Sheesh.
    who was winning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Plus 4 million.

    It's against the law to play with your phone, but plenty legal to spend as much time as you like playing with your in-car infotainment system.

    Dumb rules.

    Followed a bloke the other day watching the Argentina FIFA football game on a tablet on his dashboard. Sheesh.
    Have they changed the rules surrounding things like screens in latter years? It used to be something like it was unlawful to have a TV useable/seeable by the driver when driving [paraphrased/simple speak]
    Has this rule been abolished to allow new tech, overlooked in the rise of new tech, or am I just remembering things wrong all together?
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    Back in the day... (80's) it was against the law in Greece to have a radio in the car!...
    (And to smoke in your car ....)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Have they changed the rules surrounding things like screens in latter years? It used to be something like it was unlawful to have a TV useable/seeable by the driver when driving [paraphrased/simple speak]
    Has this rule been abolished to allow new tech, overlooked in the rise of new tech, or am I just remembering things wrong all together?
    You're quite right, It was illegal to have a TV screen where a driver could see it. AFAIK that law has never been rescinded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    Back in the day... (80's) it was against the law in Greece to have a radio in the car!...
    (And to smoke in your car ....)

    In the 70's you had to turn the radio up to drown out the diff noise. It was the car that smoked...badly. Those old Vauxhalls were great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffyd View Post
    Touch pad infotainment systems aren't going to improve matters either.
    I have a 10.5" 4G Andriod device in my dash. Live TV, YouTube, Porno, the lot.

    Has a radio too, me thinks

    Helps improve my driving, no end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daffyd View Post
    You're quite right, It was illegal to have a TV screen where a driver could see it. AFAIK that law has never been rescinded.
    Well found a rule with a quickish search

    2.5 Televisions in motor vehicles

    2.5(1) Except as provided in 2.5(2), any part of the image on a
    television screen fitted in a motor vehicle must not be visible to
    the driver of the motor vehicle from his or her normal driving
    position while the motor vehicle is in motion.
    2.5(2) Subclause 2.5(1) does not apply if:
    (a) the television screen is fitted in the motor vehicle only for
    the purpose of assisting the driver to reverse safely, by
    showing a clear picture of the area directly behind the
    motor vehicle; or
    (b) the motor vehicle is a passenger service vehicle and the
    provisions of Land Transport Rule: Passenger Service
    Vehicles 1999 are complied with; or
    (c) the screen is designed so that only information relating to
    the navigation, safe operation and control of the motor
    vehicle can be displayed on the screen while the motor
    vehicle is in motion; or
    (d) the screen is only capable of displaying text and any
    change to the text on the screen is controlled manually by
    the driver.
    Legality of infotainment systems it seems would largely depend on what they define as a "TV" (I can't find a legal or made-up NZTA definition of "TV")
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    Quote Originally Posted by granstar View Post
    In the 70's you had to turn the radio up to drown out the diff noise. It was the car that smoked...badly. Those old Vauxhalls were great!
    Vauxhall Viva

    no heating or air con
    lights could be on full all day, no one would notice.
    performance none could beat.
    Don’t remember a radio.
    went past an old Vauxhall factory while in UK, no wonder they were a performance machine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Well found a rule with a quickish search



    Legality of infotainment systems it seems would largely depend on what they define as a "TV" (I can't find a legal or made-up NZTA definition of "TV")
    I guess since an infotainment system is more than just a TV, it could be argued that it's a driver aid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    Vauxhall Viva

    no heating or air con
    lights could be on full all day, no one would notice.
    performance none could beat.
    Don’t remember a radio.
    I bought a new Viva wagon in 1970. It had been 'done up' as a demonstrator, so had a heater, carpets & wheel trims. I had to buy a radio for it as I would be doing weekly return trips from Invercargill to Queenstown, solo. Even had to get a Radio Dealer's Licence So they would sell it to me!
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    Used car sales used to have window cards loudly portraying the vehichle in question had:

    Heater
    Mudflaps
    5 Speed (this was big!)


    Now it's all:

    Bluetooth
    Autowank this and autowank that
    Heated seats
    Anti fun this and Anti fun that

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Used car sales used to have window cards loudly portraying the vehichle in question had:

    Heater
    Mudflaps
    5 Speed (this was big!)


    Now it's all:

    Bluetooth
    Autowank this and autowank that
    Heated seats
    Anti fun this and Anti fun that
    Wait, what, autowank? Tell me more!
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