It's Always Someone Else's Fault

[GrayWolf]

Bikes use more gas than they should and they pollute far worse than cars. I'm not talking about CO2, I'm talking about the stuff that can't ever be sequestered in any way and is directly linked with health issues and reducing the overall albedo of the planet. There isn't any way to attach the scrubbers, filters air injection systems and catalytic convertors to a bike that go on a very average car these days.

AIS is coming for bikes, with the Euro Emission bullshit continuing. The new generation of Spyder's have AIS fitted, if it can now be fitted under their bodywork, it won't be long until 'micro systems' are developed.

[Brian d marge]

None of us have confidence in other drivers.

But we all think we are better than everyone else.

Imagine that.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/new...unsafe-on-road

Well it's always your fault I get pinged ..weren't for u lot I wouldn't have to pay do much.

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[jafagsx250]

Anyone who thinks that hasn't been tracking their fuel usage.

My hyosung gets 350 kilometers to 20 bucks. 11 odd litres depending depending on he price. Seems pretty good in my books. 3 5 litres to 100 km I think.

But as you said they can't really clean up bikes as easily with all of the packaging issues.

[rastuscat]

A 125cc 2-stroke emits less carbon than a 3.8 litre Commodore. It's just that it's visible vapour.

Remember that not all emissions are visible. Just because something has no visible vapour doesn't mean it's clean.

[Navy Boy]

Here's an interesting article on this topic. Yes it's using 2 cars for comparison but the principle is very much the same.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-41640746

Motorcycles and their emissions relative to other forms of transport is a can of worms which will very soon be opened I reckon.

[jasonu]

A 125cc 2-stroke emits less carbon than a 3.8 litre Commodore. It's just that it's visible vapour.

Remember that not all emissions are visible. Just because something has no visible vapour doesn't mean it's clean.

Try towing a boat with your 125cc 2 smoke.

[pete376403]

AIS is coming for bikes, with the Euro Emission bullshit continuing. The new generation of Spyder's have AIS fitted, if it can now be fitted under their bodywork, it won't be long until 'micro systems' are developed.

Gen II KLR650s (2008 onward) have an AIS system that bleeds fresh air into the exhaust port. I'm guessing the extra heat in the exhaust pipe as a result of this external combustion was the reason they went to a stainless steel header pipe where the previous models had a plain steel header.