WOF Question?

[pete-blen]

[Woodman]

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...n-test-feature.

I would say these guys would know more about power steering systems than you but I bet you will say the whole story is made up anyway.

Thanks. You did read it didn't you?

No more powersteering talk in this thread

[AllanB]

Did you read it and believe it? Not that I would care anyway.

Several of our findings were predictable; some surprised us. The first discovery was that neither BMW excels in steering feel and feedback, an observation consistent with the mediocre reviews we’ve given every 5-series, including the M5, since the sixth-generation design arrived three years ago.
After griping about EPS for years, the shocking revelation is that C/D’s editorial staff preferred BMW’s electric system over its hydraulic assistance. Total votes in seven out of ten rating categories favored EPS by two to eight points each. Hydraulic shined in only the three Feedback categories where it won the on-center comparison by four points and tied with EPS in our middle-of-maneuver and at-cornering-extremes performance ratings.

[Woodman]

Thanks. You did read it didn't you?

No more powersteering talk in this thread

Did you read it and believe it? Not that I would care anyway.

Several of our findings were predictable; some surprised us. The first discovery was that neither BMW excels in steering feel and feedback, an observation consistent with the mediocre reviews we’ve given every 5-series, including the M5, since the sixth-generation design arrived three years ago.
After griping about EPS for years, the shocking revelation is that C/D’s editorial staff preferred BMW’s electric system over its hydraulic assistance. Total votes in seven out of ten rating categories favored EPS by two to eight points each. Hydraulic shined in only the three Feedback categories where it won the on-center comparison by four points and tied with EPS in our middle-of-maneuver and at-cornering-extremes performance ratings.

[pete-blen]

took the box for a WOF on sat at the AA ...
I have these day running lights on the front &
the left side was not working... so it got tossed out
So I removed them in the car park... went back though
no probs got the WOF...
surely one day running light working has to be safer
than having none...
fuck the rule book & show some common sence...
So I drove away with a new WOF in a car less safe than when
I went in......



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[Laava]

took the box for a WOF on sat at the AA ...
I have these day running lights on the front &
the left side was not working... so it got tossed out
So I removed them in the car park... went back though
no probs got the WOF...
surely one day running light working has to be safer
than having none...
fuck the rule book & show some common sence...
So I drove away with a new WOF in a car less safe than when
I went in......



..

Yep, but you could also have struck the guy that just tells you to get it repaired and gives you the wof...not sure which place he is working now tho....
Bit frustrating eh?

[Jeeper]

For non-mandatory items, if they are attached they have to work. If they are not there, no problem as they are not a required item. Common sense on WoF can become really dangerous, I prefer simple standards that we know we have to have as a minimum. Common sense works where the WoF guy says your bulb is blown or light is misaligned, and I can fix it on site for him to then pass it. Rather than the need to go away, rectify and come back again.

[sidecar bob]

Yep, but you could also have struck the guy that just tells you to get it repaired and gives you the wof...not sure which place he is working now tho....
Bit frustrating eh?

Which, as it turns out, never works.
As soon as the label is on the windscreen, nobody cares about honouring any deal that was made to issue a wof on some condition or another being met.
They're back at the next wof with, "oh, that thing you said I had to fix at the last wof, I haven't done it yet"
Or they go somewhere else & when that guy fails them, they moan like a bitch that "the last guy gave me a wof with it like that"

[GazzaH]

VTNZ inspectors in Hastings have been kind to me in the past ... and I've fixed the few minor issues they noticed but let through. It's a convenient arrangement provided we both play the game. Customers who take the piss may screw it up for the rest of us.

[AllanB]

Customers who take the piss may screw it up for the rest of us.

Valid for any business I'm afraid. Sometimes ..... people....are......shits.

[awayatc]

VTNZ inspectors in Hastings have been kind to me in the past ... and I've fixed the few minor issues they noticed but let through. It's a convenient arrangement provided we both play the game. Customers who take the piss may screw it up for the rest of us.

Am with you....

Have same arrangement at my regular wof place....
And I always do what I say....
And say what I do.
Old fashioned.........

[russd7]

the local VTNZ just love it when i rock up with the wing, often a comment along the lines of "what the hell am i supposed to check on this, ya can't see anything" they have gotten to know me reasonably well now tho and know i look after my bikes

[ellipsis]

...most were intimidated by our Wing...one young fella who took it for it's test admitted he went on a 20 k test 'cos it was so much fun...made me grin...

[veldthui]

I just took my BMW R1200RT in to VTNZ yesterday for a warrant and the dude didn't get on it. Checked the lights and horn worked, gave the wheels a wiggle and then tried and failed to find the VIN number. On the form however it said stopped in 3M at 35kph. Passed with flying colors (which it would have anyway even if he did check it properly.)

[veldthui]

took the box for a WOF on sat at the AA ...
I have these day running lights on the front &
the left side was not working... so it got tossed out
So I removed them in the car park... went back though
no probs got the WOF...
surely one day running light working has to be safer
than having none...
fuck the rule book & show some common sence...
So I drove away with a new WOF in a car less safe than when
I went in......

..

I just turned my running lights off and told the dude they only come on at night and I didn't know where the sensor was to allow them to come on.

Some things are just plain stupid like testing the high beam lights are not too high. My high beams are completely separate and who cares if they are too high as they are not on when another vehicle is coming towards me.