Poverty measure ... doesn't make sense to me

[Voltaire]

Does that mean I am not allowed to have an opinion that differs from someone who's best argument is to name call and throw personal insults? Thank you for reminding me. I will keep that in mind for future.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest he was implying your statement was too thoughtful for around these here parts ( sadly).

Rant and Rave is like one of those old pubs where if your not careful you end up getting your ear chewed off by " Mr Interesting"

Anyhows....back to Manfeild bike prep... ( not the creepy Simon Cowell one)

[jasonu]

1974 just in time for the CH-CH Commonwealth Games....do you remember when the Bulls bridge collapsed?

Yes mate. It was a Thursday. I know that because it was late night opening for Dad in his bookshop on High St. He was wondering why it was so quiet until someone told him the bridge had collapsed. He actually got interviewed on TV (not by Philip Sherry) as a town spokesman.

[jasonu]

I remember that TV very well, it was our first colour one. And it lasted a long time too.

Found an image on Google. Brought back a lot of memories of good times.

Ours was a console top o the line model with a little pop out drawer at the bottom for tuning the 2 stations we had at the time.

[Jeeper]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest he was implying your statement was too thoughtful for around these here parts ( sadly).

Rant and Rave is like one of those old pubs where if your not careful you end up getting your ear chewed off by " Mr Interesting"

Anyhows....back to Manfeild bike prep... ( not the creepy Simon Cowell one)

Appreciate your input in deciphering some of the information for my future benefit.

[Woodman]

Does that mean I am not allowed to have an opinion that differs from someone who's best argument is to name call and throw personal insults? Thank you for reminding me. I will keep that in mind for future.

I was referring to Mashmans views on how the world should be.

[mashman]

Ah, the age old cliches with no logic but name calling and personal attacks. Im not your son, dont ever call me that again, my father was infinitely more intelligent than you ever could dream to be.

Poverty in NZ is a relative construct. You want to see absolute poverty, visit some of the developing countries and see how they live. Poverty in NZ is created following an attitude of entitlement and that attitude being positively reinforced with universal and unconditional funding.

Ahhhh, the age old inability to look past the language and deal with what's being said. I meant Son in a completely derogatory manner. You claimed a failing in economic knowledge and then folded like a tonne of bricks. Pretty fuckin pathetic, even for around these parts. It's all you deserve in terms of an explanation as you have come equipped with absolutely nothing. You were given more than achievable mitigations and you spat the dummy due to your incapacity to understand, well, anything by the looks of it. That's not a personal attack, just an observation given the evidence you've put forwards so far.

bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaa... and there it is. Actually, you're more like bogan than TDL. Your ASSumptions are the worst form of defensive tripe that I've read in a while. Fuck off, there's a good lad. If you knew anything you'd have done something with the knowledge to put me in my place by now. You haven't, because you actually have nothing but pomp and bluster. You qualify and quantify nothing and run away like a poor little lamb because someone used some language that offends your delicate sensibility of entitlement. Hardly surprising you project your entitlement onto others. Poverty is created by a lack of money. Full stop. The rest of your bullshit is merely logical externality of that money scarcity.

Now run along Son, mummy needs her other tit drained.

[mashman]

I was referring to Mashmans views on how the world should be.

Are you saying that that which I have written is outwith the realms of the current reality? That's a quaint way of viewing the evidence.

[Ocean1]

Meanwhile, that behavioural construct is systematically poisoning our environments (social, mental, trees n resources n shit etc...).

No. It isn't.

Behavioural construct.

Here's an idea: you pay whatever you want to anyone for whatever they provide, $100 for bottle of milk? Go for it, your money, you earned it: you decide.

And the rest of us will do exactly the same.

And it really really is, the only people that have any right to decide what anything's worth id the guy selling it and the guy buying it. You can fuck off and mind your own business along with the rest of your bone idle mates.

[Ocean1]

Does that mean I am not allowed to have an opinion that differs from someone who's best argument is to name call and throw personal insults? Thank you for reminding me. I will keep that in mind for future.

Means you haven't learned the futility of using fact and logic in arguing with mushmate.

He's immune.

[Maha]

Yes mate. It was a Thursday. I know that because it was late night opening for Dad in his bookshop on High St. He was wondering why it was so quiet until someone told him the bridge had collapsed. He actually got interviewed on TV (not by Philip Sherry) as a town spokesman.

I was living in Palmmy at the time and Dad took me out to see it the day after.

[Voltaire]

Appreciate your input in deciphering some of the information for my future benefit.

Witness first hand how a thread on Poverty in NZ ends up being the old dears fond memories of an old tele.

Wait until they start on the day the VCR arrived.....

[jasonu]

I was living in Palmmy at the time and Dad took me out to see it the day after.

Small world mate. Maybe we looked at each other from opposite sides of the river.

[Ocean1]

Witness first hand how a thread on Poverty in NZ ends up being the old dears fond memories of an old tele.

Wait until they start on the day the VCR arrived.....

Aye, dems was the days, no indoor plumbing, third world housing, healthcare was an aspirin, dirt simiches for lunch, walked 15 miles to school, (uphill both ways).

But you tell the younguns today and will they believe you?

[Jeeper]

Witness first hand how a thread on Poverty in NZ ends up being the old dears fond memories of an old tele.

Wait until they start on the day the VCR arrived.....

I remember that day. It was Betamax with 60 minutes maximum tape... Connected to the Philips TV as above! There were no remotes.

[mada]

New Zealand does not have an official poverty measure. However, low-income thresholds or poverty lines can be used. The ‘fixed line’ measure anchors the poverty line in a reference year, then adjusts it each survey with the Consumer Price Index. The ‘moving line’ or ‘relative’ measure sets the poverty line as a proportion of the median income.

The fixed line measure (60 percent of median income) adjusted for housing costs indicated 15 percent of the total population lived in poverty in 2010, the same as in 2009. This ended a decline in poverty started in 1994. Child poverty rates were 22 percent from 2007 to 2010, following major falls from 2001. According to the MSD this was due to improving employment, income-related rents and WFF. Poverty rates for older New Zealanders (7 percent) were lower in 2010 than for any other age group (13 percent for 25 to 64 year olds and 22 percent for dependent children).

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/rese...ty-and-poverty