Poverty measure ... doesn't make sense to me

[eldog]

They're also on benefits so paying more is out of the question. They can only earn X amount more than their bene.

so is X going to get bigger when the minimum wage increases (Y) or are you going to employ more people working less hours?

[eldog]

Funny that ... I don't (never did) smoke.

And with all four jobs I have applied four in the last 15 years ... more attention was paid to my references than my qualifications. Go figure eh ... !!!

its a small town after all.....

could always move to Gore

[eldog]

Yep ... people that are prepared to work cheaper ... you get what you pay for.

and if i pay with peanuts?

could I pay with goods or services or some other payment - like paying off debt?

[eldog]

There were plenty of Kiwi's that could have bought the houses. But they thought the prices (and their returns) would not be worth the risk ...

I put off buying a house when I was growing (still growing up) up, lots of people asked why I didn't buy a house, even to rent out. I thought I was on the right path.

I took the plunge after getting burgled, the landlord was very sad I moved out - perfect tenant

Yes it was very hard at first - so many extra costs, now its become no worries apart from mortgage as long as I have a job.
and looking back now, it isn't that hard, you just need to cut your cloth to suit your income.

If I run out of money, I can always sell the house and move on.

As long as the house price doesn't fall below what I can afford for another house then I haven't lost much.

[FJRider]

... could always move to Gore

My references aren't that bad ...

[Maha]

Then so is them working more hours then. And as such ... pointless them asking for more hours. I think $80 is the maximum they are allowed ... and they must declare it too.

My original statement was to counter your assumption that 'you get what you pay for'.. not an accurate point to conclude unless you buy a BBQ that last one season.

So they are capable of working more, and with an employer who is willing to give them more work. Yet they chose to not work more because benefit will be impacted? To me that is the issue. Benefit should not be the priority if they are able to work.

There are thousands nation wide in that position, neither (nor anyone else) have a clue what benefit our employees are on and for what reason. Yet they are will to get off their asre and earn extra, unlike many in the same position.

so is X going to get bigger when the minimum wage increases (Y) or are you going to employ more people working less hours?

It appears that yes indeed X will get bigger in time, the work here still has to be done and we will still pay to have it done. Increase the room rate by $1 and............sorted.

[Woodman]

Funny that ... I don't (never did) smoke.

And with all four jobs I have applied four in the last 15 years ... more attention was paid to my references than my qualifications. Go figure eh ... !!!

Thats refreshing about the references which would have highlighted your experience. The issue now is that someone quite young who has done lots of bullshit polytech courses will appear more qualified to a lot of corporate HR types.

[eldog]

It appears that yes indeed X will get bigger in time, the work here still has to be done and we will still pay to have it done. Increase the room rate by $1 and............sorted.

I understand the increase in room rate.
wondered if benefit stayed the same and minimum wage was increased wouldn’t that put it above the amount the beneficiary could earn. Wondered I found you could have 1 more beneficiary helping every one would benefit except the occupier.

we had an argument at work today, about the minimum wage increase.
if joe has say 20 current wage and bill was on the minimum, then bill gets an increase via govt legislation. What does joe think, should I also ask for an increase?
yada yada yada the increases would go on?
it will affect a few at work so I am asking

[eldog]

My references aren't that bad ...

You haven’t run out of jobs?

[eldog]

Thats refreshing about the references which would have highlighted your experience. The issue now is that someone quite young who has done lots of bullshit polytech courses will appear more qualified to a lot of corporate HR types.

Always pick the one with practical knowhow. Who is willing to get hands dirty.
even if job doesn’t require it.
not the suits.....

[FJRider]

Thats refreshing about the references which would have highlighted your experience. The issue now is that someone quite young who has done lots of bullshit polytech courses will appear more qualified to a lot of corporate HR types.

I was hired one time because I had experience ... with fewer qualifications than some that applied.

[Jeeper]

Always pick the one with practical knowhow. Who is willing to get hands dirty.
even if job doesn’t require it.
not the suits.....

What's wrong with the suits? If the job is corporate, thats what it requires.

[eldog]

What's wrong with the suits? If the job is corporate, thats what it requires.

If they can wear a suit, no worries.
i just prefer working with people who call a spade a spade, and can use it.
If I get hit with the back of the spade, I would have deserved it

wearing of a suit doesn’t nesscessarily mean the job gets done

this is my own opinion.

where I work we have employed, crims, alcoholics, mentally challenged, all sorts.
almost all would have quit smoking in their time with me. And sorted the bing drinking problem.

they usually sort themselves out and get themselves on the straight and narrow.
the suits usually don’t last.

[FJRider]

You haven’t run out of jobs?

Nope ... most of my references are nothing to do with my qualifications.

[eldog]

Nope ... most of my references are nothing to do with my qualifications.

Must be a good worker then.

i was going to write good bugger but it might be misread
it is KB after all