Police motorcycle Safety vid.

[awayatc]

Sadly the driver training Police receive is limited to half a day every 3 years. And its an assessment, not training.

It's in no way related to IAM standards.

Sadly explains a lot....

I deserve better from the police force...

And the police force deserves better from its paymasters

[george formby]

Sadly the driver training Police receive is limited to half a day every 3 years. And its an assessment, not training.

It's in no way related to IAM standards.

That does explains a lot... I'm consistently underwhelmed by the driving standards of a number of our local Federales, they only lack a baseball cap and phat mags.

[eldog]

Sadly the driver training Police receive is limited to half a day every 3 years. And its an assessment, not training.

It's in no way related to IAM standards.

Would the general public benefit from this type of training?

[eldog]

Some weeks ago my friends car was almost hit by a police car doing a U turn. They have learnt nothing from the accident where one 1 or 2 riders were killed when a police car did a U turn some years back. So much for their car equivalent to IAMs training.

Where you driving it at the time?

[caspernz]

Great that trainee saw firsthand that one has to be ready for dangerous actions from fuckwits on our roads.

Inexcusable is that this particular fuckwit is from the "safer communities together" brotherhood.
Happily to endanger and even kill any roaduser who happens to be in the way of an (Non quota...) infringement opportunity...

Yes, I agree it shouldn't have happened in the first place, not by a member of the police force anyway. Further posts in this topic have obviously revealed the standard to which the average officer is trained is quite basic.

Now it may sound like I'm defending the officers' actions here, which I'm not, yet anyone with a modicum of situational awareness would have dealt with it much the way I did. Never even had to brake after all...

[T.W.R]

You were just at a lucky distance.

Fuck you need a bullet you dimwitted arrogant piece of shit!

[caspernz]

You were just at a lucky distance.

If by lucky you mean I moderated my speed to be able to stop short of the vanishing point, then yeah I’d agree. Thing is I know how to do this by intent, so no luck involved.

[awayatc]

You were just at a lucky distance.

Most people with more then 2 braincells learn and create their own luck.

You are just a fuckwit

[nzspokes]

Yes, I agree it shouldn't have happened in the first place, not by a member of the police force anyway. Further posts in this topic have obviously revealed the standard to which the average officer is trained is quite basic.

Now it may sound like I'm defending the officers' actions here, which I'm not, yet anyone with a modicum of situational awareness would have dealt with it much the way I did. Never even had to brake after all...

On an Observed ride I had, I came over a brow to find a Range Rover on my side of the road overtaking a cyclist.

With the correct position and speed its was easy to avoid.

I got an A+ for that ride I think, doubt I would have if I had run into the Rangie.

[nzspokes]

Would the general public benefit from this type of training?

Car Roadcraft? Ive not done car yet. But from the benefits of the motorcycle one I would say yes, very much so.

[nzspokes]

It is always the person at fault that controls how lucky you get in terms of speed and distance to slow down brake swerve etc to avoid them. If every person not at fault was as lucky as you there would be no crashes at all on the roads but sadly that is not the reality.

You could not be more wrong if you tried.

[caspernz]

It is always the person at fault that controls how lucky you get in terms of speed and distance to slow down brake swerve etc to avoid them. If every person not at fault was as lucky as you there would be no crashes at all on the roads but sadly that is not the reality.

Oh I don't know, many everyday traffic situations can be dealt with by a systematic approach. Lady luck is last resort...

On an Observed ride I had, I came over a brow to find a Range Rover on my side of the road overtaking a cyclist.

With the correct position and speed it was easy to avoid.

Roadcraft in action aye...

[caspernz]

Often in media statements from the police after crashes they attend they often say the survivors were "Lucky" So if the police say luck plays a part in outcomes you are very disillusioned to think all situations on the road are 100% controllable by the not at fault party.

At no point did I suggest all and any situation can be controlled by a systematic approach. If one starts with a systematic approach however, reliance on luck becomes the last resort, sure as heck wouldn't want luck to be my primary safety guide on the road...

[caspernz]

So your thinking is if the person at fault gives you enough time to brake or swerve etc there is something highly technical about it? If you think you are doing something highly technical everytime you avoid someone who screws up and it makes you feel like a hero good luck.

The use of Roadcraft has nothing to do with being a hero. Feel free to misinterpret anything I say though...

It's time I went and watered my pot plants

[caspernz]

I must remember next time I swerve/brake to avoid a crash to post on here that I used "Roadcraft" today. I will then know I am as good as you.

Again, feel free to misinterpret and twist everything I say, explains a lot