Police motorcycle Safety vid.

[Viking01]

You take my posts too seriously in terms of the precise terminology you are seeking. We are not debating in court did you know? If you have any doubt about whether you should do anything I state on here why not ask others if they have done the same thing too and if they have we cant all be wrong?

"You take my posts too seriously.... "

No, not in the least.

"If you have any doubt about whether you should do anything I state on here.... "

I frequently do.

[caspernz]

Oh well, the troll that is cassina has been keeping you fellas amused. In the meantime I ventured out in the sun, much more satisfying than discussing riding techniques with a pot plant

[AllanB]

I tried some of that riding in the video today. Wasn't all bad.

[rastuscat]

The chap who posts under Roadcraft Nottingham on Youtube has some really good stuff, sample below. Yes he coaches Roadcraft, same as some of us in NZ.

https://youtu.be/EBvsaN3Tc9c

Any Road Craft is good Road Craft. So long as it's taught with context.

[Blackbird]

Any Road Craft is good Road Craft. So long as it's taught with context.

Yep - that's the key. Just reading the Roadcraft book is useful but can lead to misunderstandings in application unless it's supported by practical coaching.

[caspernz]

Any Road Craft is good Road Craft. So long as it's taught with context.

Absolutely right Pete, no point teaching someone extreme positioning without talking about SSV.

Yep - that's the key. Just reading the Roadcraft book is useful but can lead to misunderstandings in application unless it's supported by practical coaching.

No doubt about it Geoff, this might be where the perception comes from that Roadcraft is in some way rigid or inflexible. In practical terms it's the exact opposite, but in order for someone to graps that they need first hand exposure to the Roadcraft system.

Yesterday my new trainee and myself witnessed a Police car attempting a U-turn not far over a blind rise, well when I say attempt, it turned into a 3 point turn. My trainee got a bit aggro on this, saying how the cops should know better than to keep doing this. Yep, I'll agree it was less than ideal, but then if I'm not out driving/riding my stopping distance...not really a problem either. Which then led to a chat about vanishing point and stopping distance. So even a less than ideal situation can be turned into a learning experience

[awayatc]

Yesterday my new trainee and myself witnessed a Police car attempting a U-turn not far over a blind rise, well when I say attempt, it turned into a 3 point turn.

Cops in general are very unforgiving towards us common road users.... therefor they put themselves above us mere mortals and should either put up or shut up.

Inexcusable antics of tossers in uniform should know and behave better .......or get another job at ird

[caspernz]

Cops in general are very unforgiving towards us common road users.... therefor they put themselves above us mere mortals and should either put up or shut up.

Inexcusable antics of tossers in uniform should know and behave better .......or get another job at ird

Yes and no. My trainee is new to advanced driving, so while what the officer did was less than ideal, to me it was a non-event. Where my trainee went wrong was in thinking he's perfectly entitled to charge over a blind rise, which will see him outrun his stopping distance significantly. In such a situation the officer doing a U-turn would turn into a near miss or incident. So as I said earlier, even a less than ideal situation turns into a learning event.

[awayatc]

Great that trainee saw firsthand that one has to be ready for dangerous actions from fuckwits on our roads.

Inexcusable is that this particular fuckwit is from the "safer communities together" brotherhood.
Happily to endanger and even kill any roaduser who happens to be in the way of an (Non quota...) infringement opportunity...

[FJRider]

If you have any doubt about whether you should do anything I state on here why not ask others if they have done the same thing too and if they have we cant all be wrong?

An iffy statement if ever there was ... and ... yes you can be ...

[old slider]

Yes and no. My trainee is new to advanced driving, so while what the officer did was less than ideal, to me it was a non-event. Where my trainee went wrong was in thinking he's perfectly entitled to charge over a blind rise, which will see him outrun his stopping distance significantly. In such a situation the officer doing a U-turn would turn into a near miss or incident. So as I said earlier, even a less than ideal situation turns into a learning event.

Man this is a great forum, a lot of the basic skills mentioned seem natural to me, but there is always other bits of info I keep picking up or it gives me a gentle reminder.

Thanks guys.

[jellywrestler]

But some of you think everything I say will result in death and if thats the case why am I not dead?

how do we know you're not? post a piccie of you with todays paper please

[nzspokes]

Some weeks ago my friends car was almost hit by a police car doing a U turn. They have learnt nothing from the accident where one 1 or 2 riders were killed when a police car did a U turn some years back. So much for their car equivalent to IAMs training.

You have friends?

[FJRider]

But some of you think everything I say will result in death and if thats the case why am I not dead?

Because people keep making allowances for you. Letting you live ... even if it costs them with injury or damage ...

[rastuscat]

So much for their car equivalent to IAMs training.

Sadly the driver training Police receive is limited to half a day every 3 years. And its an assessment, not training.

It's in no way related to IAM standards.