lanesplitting ettiquette

[rastuscat]

http://www.nzlii.org/cgi-bin/sinosrc...&mask_path=+nz

Pages of stuff. Which one is it?

[Berries]

Would have thought section 8.6 of the Road User Rule would cover it.

http://nzta.thomsonreuters.co.nz/REG...Y.2004-427.pdf

I can think of valid reasons to use them that are not specified, such as on motorways to warn traffic behind of stationary/slow moving traffic ahead when you are braking hard, but when splitting it seems a bit wanky. Just looks like you have left them on by mistake.

And another use - http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asi...ugh-delhi-smog

[Akzle]

Pages of stuff. Which one is it?

fuck if i know. help yourself

[Daffyd]

We get idiot drivers using their hazards here when it rains!

[Swoop]

fuck if i know. help yourself

That one on the chinese bitch who killed the motorcyclist was interesting. She appealed the jail time and won...!

[R650R]

Was up in the big smoke Friday.... Observations....

Apparently having both your indicators flashing hazard style is a thing now and not just for BMW riders either...

The odd GSXR or Kwakas with load pipes... I never heard you till your passing my passenger door... and im a biker TRYING to look out and listen for you...
But the combination of road noise from three lanes of tyres on the other side moving at speed plus engine noise etc.....
I think I noticed MAYBE 20% of bikes before they were in my danger zone.
Seems lot more cars doing wasted lane changes trying to que jump to faster lanes too...

As you were, have fun and keep safe

[Whynot]

ok .........

[Old Steve]

I often wonder why a lane splitting rider has only their right hand indicator on if they're just as likely to suddenly dodge into the left lane to get passed someone driving too far to the left of the right hand lane.

Wouldn't that be some sort of infringement, turning left when indicating right. And wouldn't that be a little dangerous, because the sleepy driver on your left just wouldn't be expecting you to come into their lane?

And some sports bikes with aftermarket bullet indicators, you can't see them blinking they're so small and weak.

When NSW introduced legal lane filtering they sold it as a win-win situation. A bike takes up about the same space as a car in a queue, if the bike moves up between the cars to the front of the queue and pulls away then some lucky bugger moves up one spot in the queue - that might just be the reason why they make the next set of lights and get home in time to catch the wife in bed with the milkman.

[Voltaire]

Was up in the big smoke Friday.... Observations....

Apparently having both your indicators flashing hazard style is a thing now and not just for BMW riders either...

The odd GSXR or Kwakas with load pipes... I never heard you till your passing my passenger door... and im a biker TRYING to look out and listen for you...
But the combination of road noise from three lanes of tyres on the other side moving at speed plus engine noise etc.....
I think I noticed MAYBE 20% of bikes before they were in my danger zone.
Seems lot more cars doing wasted lane changes trying to que jump to faster lanes too...

As you were, have fun and keep safe

Fairly accurate description.
I no longer use indicators lane splitting as drivers are mostly looking at the queue's of traffic in front of them.

The odd acknowledgement that they moved over is good as I've noticed it happening more lately.

I watched an L plate rider weaving in and out the other day from the comfort of the cage, he should look at Google maps and

work out the short cuts and he ended up in front of me 5 minutes later and I can't be arsed lane changing on the motorway.

[MD]

I think the use of hazard lights is silly and you look like a dick who can't make up his mind what he's doing. I will put on my left or right indicator depending on which way I'm moving when I pull left or right to commence lane split/filter. That way I letting those near me know I'm about to move to my left or right.

Hazard lights are for stationary obstructions that pose a risks to passing traffic.There, that's my technical explanation.

Above all else, try not to look like a dick. We have standards to maintain.

[Whynot]

I often wonder why a lane splitting rider has only their right hand indicator on

I think this is a combination of two things.
- Thinking it will make them slightly more visible to other traffic (cars, other bikes)
- Since half of the time while lane splitting you are overtaking the car to the left having the indicator on might help if mr. plod decides to question the legality of the maneuver

[Swoop]

I often wonder why a lane splitting rider has only their right hand indicator on...

Simply because that person is complying with the legal requirement to indicate a passing maneuver.


Using the logic of riding with hazard lights blinking away, does this give the person the right to weave around in traffic like a drunken retard?

[Racing Dave]

I was riding on a motorway on the outskirts of the outskirts of Paris a couple of months ago and the traffic was horrendous. Local riders were blitzing their way through at speed - most with their hazard lights flashing, using either side of any lane, and the drivers (poor sods) almost without exception (what with being alert) pulled over and let them through. My turn - when in Rome, and all that, and despite my rental Rallye having large panniers and me carrying a pillion, in this particular case (what with the drivers being alert!) it was the only way to make better than slipping-the-clutch progress. The only time I was beeped at was by another motorcyclist, who thought that I wasn't lane-splitting fast enough.

Might not work so well in NZ, what with the drivers not being alert.

[Old Steve]

Above all else, try not to look like a dick. We have standards to maintain.

Guess I'd rather be a live dick who had his hazard lights and has been seen by a car driver than a dead, cool dude who only had one indicator on and wasn't seen.

I'm having to drive the car at the moment following my shoulder op, and I find those guys (and the one girl around Penrose at about 5.30 pm) who race through the stopped traffic at speed, disconcerting. You notice their headlight in your mirror when they're quite some distance back and often miscalculate their speed, and then they're suddenly beside you with a roar before you know they're there. If it startles me with my bike riding mirror watching habits, then just think how it frightens the not-so-aware car driver.

But it amazes me that I've never come upon a traffic cop and ambulance at a motorcycle accident on the motorway, so they must get away with it.

[GazzaH]

Might not work so well in NZ, what with the drivers not being alert.

Not alert? Not alert? Who said that? Did someone speak? Was that a flash? A signal? A hoot? A bike? A mountain? Where am I bro? Now, where's that damn phone, somewhere down here among Colonel Sanders in the footwell I guess. Oh look, half a spliff! Who dropped that? Careless bugger. O shi