Manus Island

[Katman]

Under a dollar then.

You greedy hypocritical cunt.

The difference between you and I is obviously that I don't begrudge that dollar.

[Ocean1]

But you must answer the challenge -

And you base this on which particular overwhelmingly erudite collection of katflap discourse to date?

[Ocean1]

The difference between you and I is obviously that I don't begrudge that dollar.

No, you have no idea what my contribution has been, consolidated tax funded or otherwise.

The difference is that you're a hypocrite.

[Ocean1]

They claimed Refugee status -
..

Destroying any evidence to the contrary in the process.

Get real, dude, the vast majority of them are economic refugees.

[TheDemonLord]

What is it that you say?

Ah yes.

Once again - I expected nothing less of you.

[TheDemonLord]

It has not been proven that they tried to enter Australia illegally - refugees are not illegals .. They claimed Refugee status - Australia, against International Law, refused to even look at that request - and dumped them on Manus Island.

They did manage to fend for themselves up to now - but outside the detention centre they face an armed and hostile bunch of locals ..

I agree that the Locals aren't particularly keen on them (yet, I don't see anyone calling the Papua New Guineans Racist Xenophobes... Funny that... Guess it's only ol' Whitey that can be racist and Xenophobic...) - but as part of the deal they had the choice of "Another country" - that wasn't Australia.

They didn't take up this offer. This then begs the question, why not?

If you are a genuine refugee, fleeing for your life, then surely being offered a country that is on an equal economic footing as the one you came from, but in a state of peace is all that you require.

If, howver, you reject that - the implication is that you are moving not because you are scared for your life - but because you want something better.

If you are migrating because you want something better - you're an Economic Migrant.

What Australia did - I don't 100% agree with, however, seeing the fallout from Angele Merkles policies - I take it as the lesser of 2 evils. It sent a clear message that arriving in a leaky boat, with a sob story wasn't going to automatically grant you entry - and we didn't see the waves of migrants after that incident, that we did in Europe.

[TheDemonLord]

And you base this on which particular overwhelmingly erudite collection of katflap discourse to date?

It's about showing his true colours and refusal to answer questions that refute the rhetoric he spews.

[FatMax]

I think you're absolutely right.

So basically, they don't want any refugees there because they don't much like foreigners.

Who does, bloody Germans

[Katman]

Get real, dude, the vast majority of them are economic refugees.

And you can back that statement up with facts, can you?

[TheDemonLord]

And you can back that statement up with facts, can you?

Yes... The actions of the Migrants - they didn't want to go to another country, they wanted to go to Australia.

As soon as you turn down a safe country, and indicate a preference for one specific country, especially when that country is First world with desirable living conditions - you aren't a refugee, you're an economic Migrant.

[Ocean1]

And you can back that statement up with facts, can you?

Probably. But why would I bother? Not only does relevant data utterly fail to change your misanthropic opinions but you fail to back your hypocritical gobshite up every single chance you're given.

TLDR? Fuck off you whining hypocrite.

[pritch]

And how is that a drain on the Australian taxpayers?

Where did that come from? It isn't, they would be more productive than the average ocker. But the Australian Govt does not want boat people at any price whether direct from Asia - or via NZ

[Katman]

Probably. But why would I bother?

So that's a 'no' then.

[Katman]

Where did that come from? It isn't, they would be more productive than the average ocker. But the Australian Govt does not want boat people at any price whether direct from Asia - or via NZ

Hence my suggestion that it comes down to nothing but xenophobia.

[pritch]

Hence my suggestion that it comes down to nothing but xenophobia.

Or racism? They used to have a "white austraila" policy. Many of them would probably prefer that they still had one.