MotoGP 2018

**Banditbandit** · 27th November 2018, 12:31

Originally Posted by sugilite

What Ducati need to do is get a true champion on their bike. They need to buy Rossi out of his Yamaha contract and get him on what is now the best bike in the field.

Rossi could not win on a Ducati before - what makes you think he can win now?

Honda beat Ducati for the teams championship by 46 points - how can you claim Ducati are a better bike?

**Autech** · 27th November 2018, 13:53

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Rossi could not win on a Ducati before - what makes you think he can win now?

Honda beat Ducati for the teams championship by 46 points - how can you claim Ducati are a better bike?

Which is amazing considering DP had his worst season ever this year. CC stepped up a bit and didn't chuck it as much though which helped.

I'd say the Ducati is close to being the best bike and as soon as Jack Miller and Bags take over the 2 factory seats we'll see just how epic it is. Bring that shit

**carbonhed** · 27th November 2018, 15:24

Originally Posted by pritch

Mind if I just file that away in case I need it later?

Knock yourself out if you don't mind a few 'flounder' jokes next time he falls off when MM gets to +0.5 on his pit board :-)

**SaferRides** · 27th November 2018, 15:47

Originally Posted by Autech

Which is amazing considering DP had his worst season ever this year. CC stepped up a bit and didn't chuck it as much though which helped.

Possibly more amazing is that Marquez would have won the rider's championship by over 100 points if he hadn't fitted the medium rain tyres at Valencia.

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**sugilite:Me** · 27th November 2018, 16:37

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Rossi could not win on a Ducati before - what makes you think he can win now?

Honda beat Ducati for the teams championship by 46 points - how can you claim Ducati are a better bike?

Well, at least I hooked one

**carbonhed** · 27th November 2018, 17:03

Originally Posted by sugilite

Well, at least I hooked one

Patience is definitely a virtue :-)

**Banditbandit** · 28th November 2018, 09:50

Originally Posted by Autech

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I'd say the Ducati is close to being the best bike and as soon as Jack Miller and Bags take over the 2 factory seats we'll see just how epic it is. Bring that shit

See - what most of you have missed - and what I was expecting in response, is that it is not the bike or the rider - it is the combination of the bike and the rider - as Rossi proved when he first moved to Yamaha from Honda

best rider took on what was considered a shit bike - worked with the team and the built a bike Rossi could race and win on ..

Remember South Africa in 2004? No-one expected Rossi to place anywhere - and he went out and won.

The winning combination is the rider and the bike ..

**pritch** · 28th November 2018, 12:05

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

The winning combination is the rider and the bike ..

As Shaun said when he won the TT, You have to have the complete package. That's true, but too few guys get that opportunity in GPs. If Aprilia, KTM and Suzuki can keep on improving there could be more riders with a competitive package. Then we all win.

**Drew** · 28th November 2018, 12:09

There is a misconception that the best rider can make any bike work. In truth that's true of only two riders that I can think of, and they're both from Australia. And even then, there's a real possibility that Stoner suited the Ducati and the Honda he got was so fucken good he couldn't help but win.

**WALRUS** · 28th November 2018, 19:49

Originally Posted by Drew

There is a misconception that the best rider can make any bike work. In truth that's true of only two riders that I can think of, and they're both from Australia. And even then, there's a real possibility that Stoner suited the Ducati and the Honda he got was so fucken good he couldn't help but win.

14 years ago I'd say it was right about Rossi. Went from the RC211-V to the M1, from 2 championships to 2 wins. Admittedly, the bike had almost a total overhaul between the '03 and '04 seasons but it was still great to watch. It would be like if Marquez signed for Suzuki (hell, or Yamaha) for the next year and still dominated. Or if Jonathan Rea switched to a Honda in WSBK

Nobody seems to have the balls to do that anymore

**BMWST?** · 28th November 2018, 19:59

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

See - what most of you have missed - and what I was expecting in response, is that it is not the bike or the rider - it is the combination of the bike and the rider - as Rossi proved when he first moved to Yamaha from Honda

best rider took on what was considered a shit bike - worked with the team and the built a bike Rossi could race and win on ..

Remember South Africa in 2004? No-one expected Rossi to place anywhere - and he went out and won.

The winning combination is the rider and the bike ..

and possibly even more under rated...the team

**Autech** · 29th November 2018, 08:40

Originally Posted by WALRUS

14 years ago I'd say it was right about Rossi. Went from the RC211-V to the M1, from 2 championships to 2 wins. Admittedly, the bike had almost a total overhaul between the '03 and '04 seasons but it was still great to watch. It would be like if Marquez signed for Suzuki (hell, or Yamaha) for the next year and still dominated. Or if Jonathan Rea switched to a Honda in WSBK

Nobody seems to have the balls to do that anymore

If the media is correct Zarco had the chance at a Honda and chose KTM instead.
That took balls but I fear it won't pay off for him as the bike is just too far away.

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**SaferRides** · 29th November 2018, 08:48

Originally Posted by Autech

If the media is correct Zarco had the chance at a Honda and chose KTM instead.
That took balls but I fear it won't pay off for him as the bike is just too far away.

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Good luck Zarco!