MotoGP 2018

[Autech]

Meanwhile, back in the jungle, has Lorenzo got his Mojo back? He qualified well but I fear the race will see him farting around in the back half of the field - again.

Will we see him on a Suzuki next year? I hope so.....

Nah 3rd or 4th for him tonight. He and DP love this circuit

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[husaberg]

In that Burgess interview I referred to, he describes how when Rossi arrived at Yamaha from Honda, the existing Yamaha mechanics firmly believed that the Yamaha could not beat the Honda. Rossi arrived with his own team of mechanics who had no negative mental baggage. Burgess wondered if that perhaps that negative attitude has crept back into the Yamaha camp.

Sorry I missed that I will go back through your posts.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131096563

I'd be inclined to believe anything Jerry wrote especially considering his riders tended to win championships.

I found this here http://www.brm.co.nz/life-after-rossi/

JB ON ROSSI’S FIRST-UP WIN WITH YAMAHA:
“We (Rossi, JB and his team of technicians) came in with the confidence of winning. A lot of the European Yamaha technicians were in awe of Honda but we knew Honda inside out and also knew that in a lot of areas the Yamaha was actually better.”
“A lot of European MotoGP technicians consider racing is a job but to me and all the Aussies I know who work over there the motivation is winning.

Winning Above All Else
Burgess elaborates on another major difference that has developed between him and Rossi.
“Valentino loves the whole process of going racing and enjoys the riding almost as much as winning,” he says.

“My attitude has always been if you are not going to win stay home. During our time with Ducati I often felt we weren’t even in the same race as the top three.

okay this one might not correlate with recent events....

JB ON MARC MARQUEZ’S RAPID RISE:
“He’s raced through the junior ranks to earn experience and learned a lot from watching Valentino Rossi. Look at the overtaking carbon-copy move at Laguna Seca’s corkscrew. Valentino likes him and I think he’d be happy to hand over the mantle of popularity to him.”

[ellipsis]

...I'm just pensive...been around too long to make predictions...If Cal, who has been upping his anti and kind of hanging on to his bike longer, long enough to be 4th in the line at the moment, can rattle Marc by blowing the record and getting through turn 2 (?) consistently, where Marquez for the first time I've ever seen him, flustered, by a front end, corner thing, that he gave up time, may be weighing on his over competitive mind...then there's DP and Rins and other youngsters who are threatening the once named, aliens...seems common practice in the last few seasons for the acceleration on the track to be matched by the acceleration in new talent coming onto the track...who would have seen a rookie Malaysian guy coming along and making headway at the top end of the game in his first few rides...viva!...

[carbonhed]

Sorry I missed that I will go back through your posts.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...post1131096563

okay this one might not correlate with recent events....

he's certainly hiding it well!

[BMWST?]

People keep coming up with that stuff about the Yamaha. I thought we were over that.

Burgess and Rossi met with the Yamaha engineers and changed bloody near everything that could be changed. Four valve heads instead of five. Big bang engine. Engine running backwards. Then, after testing, Burgess requested that the engine be raised an inch in the frame.

Gigi D described the problem at Ducati when he went there. The engineers would not listen, they regarded negative comments about "their" bike as insults and they tended to ignore the team mechanics. Gigi told the engineers at the factory that the guys in the racing team drive the effort, if the engineers felt they couldn't take direction from the team mechanics they should get another job.

Rossi's ability as a development rider has taken a hit, but we should at least be judging on the facts not on total fabrications.

easy there boy ,one of the options was that ducati wouldnt change it.I dont think the yamaha was a complete dog,they only had an off season to change it,and he won first up .There wasnt the same testing restrictions but......

[pritch]

The post containing the link to the Jerry Burgess interview is #831.



Update:

Because of the mention of lawyers I didn't acknowledge the source of that "intriguing" message. The original message has subsequently been deleted. Because a Google search for the factory name would have revealed the text of the message here, I've deleted my post as well. I have no wish to be responsible for lawyers descending on the journo that posted the story.

[husaberg]

Remember what i said about those Dukes not turning

[roogazza]

Remember what i said about those Dukes not turning

Lol, lots of yelling in the Doocati camp and Pedro's little body flying high !
#93 though,did the bizz,no problem.
#46 , couldn't capitalise .

#35 , was always betting/hoping and ....... yep !! .

Stunning morning in Horowhenua,I'm off to push the button.Work hard fellow "armchair experts".

[Autech]

Time to start pointing fingers!

PMSL!

Poor Dani's luck continues.

My take on the incident - Dovi squeezed Lorenzo way the fuck out as he was struggling to get past him, Dani goes "thank fuck they've made a mistake cunts have been holding me up all race, that's a big arsed gap and ima smoke these clowns", Lorenzo goes "screw you Dovi ima square this bitch off and pop a phat wheelie past your Italian ass." BOOM!

Meanwhile Zarco goes "Holy fuck that's a Honda in the middle of the track, Ima go round it and get a free podium"

Iannone goes "Damn my GF is HAWT, ladadadaaaa, oh shit, that's right I'm a motogp racer, OH SHIT! I'm racing for a podium now better actually ride the bike properly else the boss'll be mad"

[carbonhed]

Well that was disappointing really. A cascade of small mistakes obliterates the podium battle. Cal once again trying for one place better than he has the chops for... he needs a mental skills coach... he should get Dovi's... or a brain transplant.

MM leads the championship by twelve points. If the bike hadn't stalled on the grid in Argentina you could add 25 points to that. That's the true state of his advantage.

Zarco once again dicking the factory team. Second in the championship.

I wonder if Vinales wishes he was back on the Suzuki? Iannone... meh. Rins... ffs.

Good ride again by Miller. When everybody fell off together the commentators thought Rossi might be on for a podium. I thought "fuck off. He'll be lucky to beat Miller". Well Miller ran out of tyre so he did indeed beat him but he never showed a wheel to the other guys. Those days are long gone.

Morbidelli fuck yeah.

Not a bad ride by Bautista.

On the plus side the factory Ducati looks promising. And Lorenzo was quick.

[Pound]

Cal is always making excuses whenever he screws up......

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/ne...-bike-1034360/

Why couldn't he ride like he did in Q2??

[Luckylegs]

I hated mm with a vengeance during recent years run ins with rossi, as i really wanted to see vale get that one more championship however.....

You cant not be a fan of freak and awesome. Im converted and may he continue his run towards wiping the floor with rossi and his records!!!!!!!

Oh and if the maniac can do enough to keep a half decent ride somewhere then im a happy little motogp fan.......

Oh and while i remember... fuck you A.Canet

[Pound]

I hated mm with a vengeance during recent years run ins with rossi, as i really wanted to see vale get that one more championship however.....

You cant not be a fan of freak and awesome. Im converted and may he continue his run towards wiping the floor with rossi and his records!!!!!!!

Indeed, when I first started watching Markey Marc, I could not stand his cheesy ass grinning face, and for a long time wanted Rossi to beat his ass down....

Now though, I have huge respect for the guy.......... But I still want Rossi to beat his B**** ass......

[Autech]

Marquez was fucking clever last night, that move on Dani showed just how confident he is in the front end of that Honda to biff it in like that, brilliant.
He was worried about Dani's pace so made it happen quick and fast while Dani was trying to figure a way around the mobile chicane.
From there he was the first and only guy to get through on JL, he identified the only spot JL was vulnerable and made the move, after that JL was covering it off so well that neither Dovi nor Dani stood a chance.

How good is Crafar now? In particular his comments about the Ducati boys debrief, apparently for JL they modified his power delivery and boy did it show, he was pulling away from Dovi where it mattered and hammering both Honda's. His braking was bloody good too considering the soft front tyre. I would be willing to bet that if they hadn't come unglued that would have kept going on due to JL's brilliant riding. Top notch just a shame it ended in disaster.

Dovi has come out blaming Dani and JL, but I think it must be said he squeezed the fuck out of JL in the braking zone by running in wide at him (as they all do but on your team mate is a bit rude) so I'd proportion a little blame on him too. He certainly didn't look very clinical last night, being blocked hard out by JL must have been frustrating, but that's why it's "racing" not "make way for the fastest rider".

[pritch]

Lots of chatter on social media. Initially heaps of oprobrium for Race Direction for:
A) not penalising Canet and
B) not penalising whichever of the Pedro, Lorenzo, Dovi, trio that particular individual didn't like.

Canet was eventually penalised, he will start from the back of the grid at Le mans.

Pedrosa whinged that he went to see Mike Webb but Webb disespected him by refusing to talk to him. At the time Webb was watching the Red Bull Rookies race which follows the GP, as is normal, so was not available to chat. Later Webb did give an explanation of the options available to Race Direction over the incident and the rationale for not penalising anybody. Pedro should be grateful 'cause he was in the firing line if penalties were to be handed out.

Rossi has fired a public shot at Yamaha over the slow reaction to their problems. Somebody asked if Rossi expected Yamaha to kidnap a Magnetti Marelli engineer. David Emmett replied to the effect that is probably exactly what Rossi does want.

Action packed racing, still I do feel sorry for the half dozen or so podium contenders who were wiped out through no fault of their own.