MotoGP 2018

[Autech]

Pedro was pissed off as he probably felt the most pain, he was pissed off again when Webb wasn’t available at his convenience. The whole mess was treated as a racing incident so there were no penalties. In that regard at least he was just a little bit lucky.

From what I read Dani wanted to know how 3 or 4 similar incidents got treated differently.
JZ vs DP
MM vs AE
MM vs VR
DP vs JL

Zarco up the inside of Dani, Dani lifts up the bike and crashes. Racing incident. Now if Dani had held his line and they had both or just he gone down, IE like Rossi did, is that still a racing incident?

Dani up the inside of JL, JL doesn't lift the bike. They both crash. Racing incident.

MM up the inside of Rossi, Rossi hold his line, crashes, penalty.

This is actually what I think DP is getting at, he can't work out from his point of view how the incidents are being treated differently. Sounds like Mike Webbs crew should have told Dani to come back later also as it seems Dani wanted to talk to the head honcho not the goons.

No way in hell would Dani deserve a penalty out of the 3 though, JL cut back like a crazy man without any regard for how mad his line was.
Dovi started it by being a n00b though and trying to overtake one of the best riders on the grid who was riding like only Lorenzo could. Dovi bro, you're the #2 rider remember

[merv]

Clearly Race Direction favours Rossi, treats Marquez like a criminal and treats Pedrosa like he doesn't exist. The scripts are written by WWE for Dorna.

[pritch]

Sounds like Mike Webbs crew should have told Dani to come back later also as it seems Dani wanted to talk to the head honcho not the goons.

The situation was reported, but this is from memory so I may have the terminology slightly wrong. Apparently when Mike Webb was informed Pedro wanted to see him, he asked if it was an official protest. He was informed that it was not an official protest, so he sent the stewards while he remained on the job. It would seen that what followed could have been handled better, but there are inherent difficulties working with people, some of whom have English as a second language.

Several discussions of the race incident have been posted on the 'Net by ex-riders and others with a claim to expertise, illustrated by video, some frame by frame. As soon as they post them though Dorna get the clips taken down. Sometimes Dorna are too tough. There is a high level of interest in their event and they are working dilligently to shut that interest down.


Testing is over, PR speak abounds, so we await LeMans in a coupla weeks.

[Autech]

There are several discussions of the incident by ex-riders and others with a claim to expertise, all illustrated by video, some even frame by frame. As soon as they post them though Dorna get the clips taken down. Sometimes Dorna are too tough. There is a high level of interest in their event and they are working dilligently to shut discussion down.

Testing is over so we await LeMans in a coupla weeks.

I agree that it's a racing incident, in particular as the riders involved are known to not be reckless as they're too old and wise for that shit.

On to the testing and one of the most interesting things from the race on the weekend.

KTM - New engine, apparently it's got the counter rotating doohicky and Pol was able to be 1 sec a lap faster than the day before in similar conditions.
That's a huge improvement and the fact that Kalio finished ahead of the other boys bodes well. I did notice when they were on track together that Kallio was holding a tighter line than Pol and Bradley. Looking good for KTM if they are able to still make big steps, especially at a circuit like Jerez where the time is all in the corners it should translate to speed at other tracks.

[eelracing]

Sanity has prevailed.
Dovi ran Jorge wide. Jorge dived back on line and clearly had no idea Dani was there until to late. Dani saw a big fat clear apex ahead and committed to it.
Its a racing incident, unfortunately Dani once again wrong place wrong time. How sad never mind.

[EJK]

Sanity has prevailed.
Dovi ran Jorge wide. Jorge dived back on line and clearly had no idea Dani was there until to late. Dani saw a big fat clear apex ahead and committed to it.
Its a racing incident, unfortunately Dani once again wrong place wrong time. How sad never mind.

This.

Any other claims are excuses and blame.

[Mental Trousers]

Definitely a racing incident. Were I in a similar position to any of those 3 in a race I would've done exactly what they did.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Clearly Race Direction favours Rossi, treats Marquez like a criminal and treats Pedrosa like he doesn't exist. The scripts are written by WWE for Dorna.

LOLZ I think that's possibly a fair call.

[Dadpole]

It is all part of a plan to set a new altitude record for a Spanish midget.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It is all part of a plan to set a new altitude record for a Spanish midget.

Poor old Dani - I'd love to see him win one - he is in danger of being the next Randy Mamola... but with a bit less personality.

[husaberg]

Poor old Dani - I'd love to see him win one - he is in danger of being the next Randy Mamola... but with a bit less personality.

Randy was always a showman but used to be on the receiving end of a lot fat jokes as well.

[husaberg]

Definitely a racing incident. Were I in a similar position to any of those 3 in a race I would've done exactly what they did.

I agree but Dovi was the rider who was making an well defined effort to baulk another competitor,both he and George ended up miles offline and over cooked, Then Dovi instead of taking some responsabilty then tried to blame everyone elso for what occured, when it was actually a direct result of this initial move, Thats the bit i found to be silly on Dovis part, the rest of it while being regretable was nothing really malicious. It was just lucky Dani never busted a collarbone or similar.

[Mental Trousers]

I agree but Dovi was the rider who was making an well defined effort to baulk another competitor,both he and George ended up miles offline and over cooked

It's a block-pass but Dovi didn't get it done in time to make the apex and ran way wide. Jorge couldn't cut behind him until very late.

If that was a 2 bike group or Dani was closer/further back there would've been no problem. Just unfortunate circumstances.

[Autech]

. It was just lucky Dani never busted a collarbone or similar.

He busted a phat highside though, guy sure knows how to crash and make it MASSIVE. There's a photo on the motogp twitter where the freeze the moment Dani is up in the air, I've just screen shot it and posted it below. Superman without a cape springs to mind.

[WALRUS]

And just as I start to think that modern electronics have killed the high-side, Dani strides into the room!

Reminds me of Frankie Chili back in WSBK (in yonder past). He had a knack for crashing like anybody else but making it look like a proper hard stack!

Also, my brother just shared this on FaceBrick.. Got a chuckle :P

https://www.motorcyclealliance.com.a...ug-mcclutchin/

He seems to be really good at making people not like him much :/