MotoGP 2018

[BMWST?]

Well they've had over a year already. If the electronics worked they could at least minimise a crank weight problem. It would seem that now they are becoming aware that there is a problem; Yamaha have issued an apology to the riders.


http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/0...-fix-it/268133

its more this years bike i think Zarco hasother issues but he has qualified better than the factory boys again

[husaberg]

You got a link to what Frits says? I want to read it.

Some further reading
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/julia...kshaft-engine/
https://motomatters.com/news/2008/02...ines_work.html
https://www.crash.net/motogp/feature...ther-of-the-m1
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/o...s-bigger-bucks
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/80...l-never-return
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...Bang-explained
note from what i now know the Honda NSR500 big bang was actually firing twice 0 and at 90 degrees.
Honda always said it was 68 degrees but what they were referring to is the crankpin offset that the 112 degree v angle needs for 90 degree firing.
So it has two cylinder firing at 0 degrees and another two at 90 degrees then a 270 degree rest period.
the screamer has 0 degree for two cylinders and the other two 180 degrees later.
the First few years were 0-90-180-270 firing.

NSR500 1984-1990-1991
000----090----180----270----360
-1-------3--------2-------4-------1-

Screamer - V4 2-Stroke (180 degree motor) ie the two up NSR500 90-91 and then 1997- onwards
000----090----180----270----360
1&3------------2&4------------1&3

Big Bang - V4 2-Stroke NSR500 1992-1997
000----090----180----270----360---090
1&4----2&3--------------------1&4---2&3


the Big bang effectively replicates a rc30 or two ducatis miror imaged side by side. but firing twice a often aand without the silly valves etc.
here is a big bang and a screamer noise comparison first one going past is a screamer second is a big bang
here

[WALRUS]

Surfing around Austria

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Moto...3447881302101/

[roogazza]

1st and 2nd earned their money in the Motogp race.
Yamaha will be thankful they have Rossi who is a Sunday man.

Nice to have plenty of engine noise in Austria, went a long way to drown out the commentators. lol.

Great fighting in Moto2.

[pritch]

George used to prefer to win by disappearing into the distance if he could. He may still prefer to do it that way, but now he can do it the other way if he has to. Taking Marquez on and coming out on top ain't easy.

I had been nodding off but the last few laps woke me up.

[Autech]

George used to prefer to win by disappearing into the distance if he could. He may still prefer to do it that way, but now he can do it the other way if he has to. Taking Marquez on and coming out on top ain't easy.

I had been nodding off but the last few laps woke me up.

Better than me I fell asleep during moto2 and only woke up at 1:30 lol!
Was like fuck! Sounds like I didnt miss the most exiting race though so not too gutted.

Just watched the press conference and Jorge alluded to the Mitchies being the reason he no longer can go off like a scolded cat.
Next year is going to be epic I think

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[pritch]

Better than me I fell asleep during moto2 and only woke up at 1:30 lol!
Was like fuck! Sounds like I didnt miss the most exiting race though so not too gutted.

The MotoGP website is kindly offering the last lap for free:

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2018...-battle/268346

[WALRUS]

This is probably just my massive, long-term Rossi fan bias talking.. But there's just something about Lorenzo and something about Marquez which just stops me from liking them.

As usual, I have to say that they are incredibly talented riders, far more capable than I am, etc etc, but fuck me, I like Biaggi and Gibernau more than those two, and I couldn't stand them "back in the day".. I can't put my finger on what it is but there's just something about them which rubs me up the wrong way.

And it isn't purely because they consistently beat Vale, there are heaps of guys out there who can do that which don't shit me up the wall as much as these two lads.

[roogazza]

George used to prefer to win by disappearing into the distance if he could. He may still prefer to do it that way, but now he can do it the other way if he has to. Taking Marquez on and coming out on top ain't easy.
I had been nodding off but the last few laps woke me up.

I used to enjoy Horhay in 250, he can fight no doubt.
Not surprised he is bettering Dovi this year.
(Dovi had his reasons and a long face in Ferme,see that ?).

[WALRUS]

I used to enjoy Horhay in 250, he can fight no doubt.

250's were an awesome class!

I still remember him fucking off the front and just disappearing though. When I was at PI in 2007, that's pretty much all he did all weekend.. The talented twat!

[Autech]

This is probably just my massive, long-term Rossi fan bias talking.. But there's just something about Lorenzo and something about Marquez which just stops me from liking them.

As usual, I have to say that they are incredibly talented riders, far more capable than I am, etc etc, but fuck me, I like Biaggi and Gibernau more than those two, and I couldn't stand them "back in the day".. I can't put my finger on what it is but there's just something about them which rubs me up the wrong way.

And it isn't purely because they consistently beat Vale, there are heaps of guys out there who can do that which don't shit me up the wall as much as these two lads.

Its funny as when I first came into watching Motogp ('08ish) it was Rossi who I disliked: how when he came into Parc Ferme after coming 3rd or 2nd how he never looked happy and would go straight to his engineers to give them a debrief rather than enjoying the moment. It was JL I cheered on as he was beating the established hero. The last few years at Ducati have shown what a class act he is, to re invent his riding style to beat a guy that has been on that bike for wayyyy longer than him was no small feat. Character wise you need to remember the upbringing these guys have had its hardly normal; to have a career starting when you are 4 years old... So you can't measure them with the same yard stick as anyone else I think. I wouldn't be surprised to find he is on the autism spectrum either.

MM is a racer personified, he loves to be out on track, loves winning but loves a good battle more. The sparkle in his eye hasn't dulled from when we first saw him cleaning up in 125s. Hope he remains fit and healthy like Rossi till he's 40 as he sets one hell of a high bench mark for anyone with plans to win a title. So long as at some stage he leaves Honda to another bike to prove the doubters (myself included) that he could adapt his riding style to suit a bike that won't bend to his will.

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[Autech]

I used to enjoy Horhay in 250, he can fight no doubt.
Not surprised he is bettering Dovi this year.
(Dovi had his reasons and a long face in Ferme,see that ?).

Yeah he didn't look cheerful in the press debrief either.

JL is one hard fucker to pass on the Ducati and until he can find a way to do that he's going to struggle. If you look at the crashes at Jerez and Le Mans for Dovi you could argue both were caused by his frustration at getting through on JL.

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[sugilite:Me]

Dovi needs to put a hard and uncompromising pass on JL right at the start. This getting stuck behind and burn the tyres out is getting to be a theme.
I too have trouble liking JL and for a while MM too, but JL has really grown some nads of late and totally deserved his win. Well done JL - but your still a prick
How MM stayed on that bike through the last handful of laps I will never know - A riding God walking the earth!
Rossi still going pretty bloody well on a less than optimum bike. Vinales - what a soft cock sook he has turned out to be.

[Dadpole]

I think Vinales has given up and is doing a Pedrosa (Finishing the season without injury).

[Black Knight]

JL reminds me so much of Biaggi-its the arrogance I reckon-and the fancy white scarves (he has several)and the way he never says thanks to the lackey who delivers said scarves, does he ever thank anyone.I did not see any hand shake or pat on the back with Dovi in Ferme either.He sure can ride though.