Cassina - advice

[Katman]

Is this correct:

1) Cassina is going 100km/h approaching a 65k recommended speed left hand corner.

2) Cassina uses the front brake and rear brake with the throttle completely closed to slow to 65km/h.

3) Cassina leans the bike over to the left and releases both brakes and still has no throttle on.

4) Cassina realises the corner is actually tighter than first thought and needs to tighten her line.

5) Cassina applies a light squeeze on the front brake while still leaning over. This slows her down and tightens the line.

6) Cassina releases the front brake and carries on around the corner until she can see the exit then applies the throttle and stands the bike up.

Or... from step 3

3) cassina leans the bike over to the left releasing the rear brake only, leaving some pressure on front brake.

4) Cassina realises the corner is tighter than she thought and increases the front brake pressure slightly to slow the bike down and tighten her line.

5) Cassina sees the exit of the corner, releases the front brake and begins accelerating as she stands the bike back up.

Which one Cassina? The top scenario or the bottom scenario. You don't have to go into any in-depth answer, just top or bottom, which do you do?

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Jesus fucking Christ, are you autistic too?

[sidecar bob]

Tell you what - I'll happily do a practical test with you - I'll take my bike out on some twisties with you and to make it interesting, we'll get some articulated trucks travelling in the opposite direction.

We'll both come into a corner a bit hot - You can brake exactly as you have written and I'll brake how I ride (which is, if it's a bit hot - a wee bit of rear brake to bleed speed mid corner and tighten the line, but not too much to risk locking the rear and highsiding it).

The winner (and the one who by extension knows how to ride) is the one that makes it round the corner without getting run over by a Truck.

Any day you want to put into practice that which you've written - let me know.

The fact that anyone can break it down to an exact science the same for every corner enough to come home & ruminate about it on the inter web suggests that riding is not a natural extension to that individual.
I wouldn't have a fuckin clue what I do most of the time, just what naturally feels right for that bike in that moment of time.
But whatever it is, it's not difficult, dangerous or slow, or resulting in frequent mishaps, or mishaps at all.

[Katman]

Tell you what - I'll happily do a practical test with you - I'll take my bike out on some twisties with you and to make it interesting, we'll get some articulated trucks travelling in the opposite direction.

We'll both come into a corner a bit hot - You can brake exactly as you have written and I'll brake how I ride (which is, if it's a bit hot - a wee bit of rear brake to bleed speed mid corner and tighten the line, but not too much to risk locking the rear and highsiding it).

The winner (and the one who by extension knows how to ride) is the one that makes it round the corner without getting run over by a Truck.

Any day you want to put into practice that which you've written - let me know.

Seriously, how old are you?

[Akzle]

So the author of the article I posted is a fuckwit too then by your warped logic??

can you show me where anyone said that?

probably not eh. because you're a fuckwit.

[TheDemonLord]

The fact that anyone can break it down to an exact science the same for every corner enough to come home & ruminate about it on the inter web suggests that riding is not a natural extension to that individual.
I wouldn't have a fuckin clue what I do most of the time, just what naturally feels right for that bike in that moment of time.
But whatever it is, it's not difficult, dangerous or slow, or resulting in frequent mishaps, or mishaps at all.

Okay - there is Merit to what you say - and certainly, riding is not a one-size-fits-all endevour, granted.

But would you not agree, that whilst there are some things which are mostly right, most of the time. There are other things that are never right, at anytime?

And if Cassina was offering either a specific solution to a very defined circumstance, or was talking in a manner that acknowledged great depths of nuance - then perhaps I wouldn't be so harsh. But time and time again they have shown this not to be the case. Time and Time again, they've spouted so-called advice which is downright dangerous for anyone to follow at face value.

[Katman]

Okay - there is Merit to what you say - and certainly, riding is not a one-size-fits-all endevour, granted.

But would you not agree, that whilst there are some things which are mostly right, most of the time. There are other things that are never right, at anytime?

And if Cassina was offering either a specific solution to a very defined circumstance, or was talking in a manner that acknowledged great depths of nuance - then perhaps I wouldn't be so harsh. But time and time again they have shown this not to be the case. Time and Time again, they've spouted so-called advice which is downright dangerous for anyone to follow at face value.

Seriously, you should shut the fuck up while you're only losing.

[Bikemad]

so am i right in assuming that cassina overcooked it into a corner coz he/she was feeling the need to keep up on a group ride?

[TheDemonLord]

Seriously, you should shut the fuck up while you're only losing.

If that is true - why have you been talking for years now?

[Akzle]

Public service announcement.
I, akzle, have been previously misadvised and using words in a manner different to the common comprehension. i'm sure this will come as a huge surprise to most.
mistakes have been made on all sides, and if any offence has been caused then i will consider regretting it.


c*ssina is still a fuckwit.

[AllanB]

Fuck man I just point and hang on!

Never go cheap on rubber.

[EJK]

Curious. In this situation what would you have done Cassina?

https://www.facebook.com/liam.saies/...55846820376908

[Berries]

Never go cheap on rubber.

Yep. I have three kids to prove the point.

[nzspokes]

I wouldn't have a fuckin clue what I do most of the time.

Which is a problem for many riders. Imagine if somebody had a system for motorcycle control that used the Information you are getting which told you what Position you should be in, what Speed and Gear you should use and lastly when to Accelerate.

Wouldnt that be a thing.

[Akzle]

Well I certainly would be dead if I had rode like a poster on here used to when they said the right wheel track is the safest place to be. They no longer ride like that after others as well as myself said it was dumb and the poster then decided to change the way he rode. Ride as far left as possible would be the message that video is suggesting.

you're a fuckwit

[sidecar bob]

Which is a problem for many riders. Imagine if somebody had a system for motorcycle control that used the Information you are getting which told you what Position you should be in, what Speed and Gear you should use and lastly when to Accelerate.

Wouldnt that be a thing.

It sounds awfully mechanical & hardly enjoyable at all.