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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    If you read my post again I said I do it if I slightly overcook a corner which is not all the time. Holy fuck yourself just go and try it (at your own risk) by overcooking a corner and applying slight front brake pressure to see if you tighten your line and not fall off which you sound like you would most likely do due to your doubt and if so "just dont do it". Maybe what works for me could also be bike specific which would explain why you can not comprehend but then it works for the author of the article too. Maybe you need to get a riding school with the special skill necessary to teach you as you did say you maybe have been going to the wrong riding school did you not?
    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Cassina's article is mainly for track use. Tracks are normally grippy and clean, the average country road corner may or may not be clean, it may or may not have good grip. Turning in under hard braking could be a big let down.

    Yes - and it is bike-dependent.

    On my old Honda in a corner when I was too hot I would tap the front brake ... this was not to tighten the line, but to slow down ... remember a wide swooping corner is faster than a tight corner - but on the road a misjudged wide swooping corner can often take you off the road ... tapping the front brake in a corner is risky - too hard and the bike stands up ..

    Then I would use counter steering to push down the front - and get round the corner. I suspect Cassina is missing out the counter-steering - may well be doing it automatically.

    My 650 bandit - the one I throw around - does not need this - the throttle response is so good I balance on the throttle and use counter steering - Then as I come out the corner I really open the throttle to stand up the bike ..

    This is racer Nail McKenzie on cornering ...

    "On a superbike I would tend to brake deeper into the corner while keeping it in a straight line, go past the point I would normally turn in but get it slowed down more so that when I start to turn and get off the brakes it comes back across for quite a late apex.
    Make of it what you will ..
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    Over the years on here there has been a lot of debate about cornering and even those that oppose my view often will not agree among themselves either. If in doubt go to riding school, its just they won't teach my way or the way stated in the link I have posted which does sound like my way.
    And what exactly is "your way" ? I don't recall ever having seen you articulate it clearly,
    despite having been challenged to do so on frequent occasion. Perhaps you'd like to take
    the opportunity to refresh our memory ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    Perhaps you'd like to take the opportunity to refresh our memory ?
    Why?

    So the circle jerk club can have their next group orgasm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Why?

    So the circle jerk club can have their next group orgasm?
    Are you feeling left out? Performance anxiety maybe?
    I mentioned vegetables once, but I think I got away with it...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    Over the years on here there has been a lot of debate about cornering and even those that oppose my view often will not agree among themselves either. If in doubt go to riding school, its just they won't teach my way or the way stated in the link I have posted which does sound like my way.
    Do you use counter steering?
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Do you use counter steering?
    i steer clear of any counter thanks...
    Opinions are like arseholes: Everybody has got one, but that doesn't mean you got to air it in public all the time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    i steer clear of any counter thanks...
    ...I use an abacus...and I used to use pie but now that I am diabetic I have to avoid them...like I do dogs on the road...I'm not allowed hot dogs either...I miss the good old kiwi hotdog when I'm at the track and the fund raisers at Bunnings look at me odd when they ask if I want onions with my sausage and I say yes please, lots, but no sausage thanks...there are far worse things in life than wiggling around a corner the wrong way...I prefer to just 'whizz' around them with my eyes closed and hope for the best...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...I prefer to just 'whizz' around them with my eyes closed and hope for the best...
    thats why the funny looks as you 'whizz' and hope for the best.

    READ AND UDESTAND

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Jesus fucking Christ
    Where have you seen this?

    does it need to be seen to be believed?

    its gotta be on the web, or in Taupo at least.

    READ AND UDESTAND

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    Is that where he walked across the water....?
    Opinions are like arseholes: Everybody has got one, but that doesn't mean you got to air it in public all the time....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...I use an abacus...and I used to use pie but now that I am diabetic I have to avoid them...like I do dogs on the road...I'm not allowed hot dogs either...I miss the good old kiwi hotdog when I'm at the track and the fund raisers at Bunnings look at me odd when they ask if I want onions with my sausage and I say yes please, lots, but no sausage thanks...there are far worse things in life than wiggling around a corner the wrong way...I prefer to just 'whizz' around them with my eyes closed and hope for the best...
    as long as you putt ya foot down ya shud be rite

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    Quote Originally Posted by russd7 View Post
    as long as you putt ya foot down ya shud be rite
    ...kin'oath...got around most of them in 46 years, worth of whizzing round the things...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking01 View Post
    And what exactly is "your way" ? I don't recall ever having seen you articulate it clearly,
    despite having been challenged to do so on frequent occasion. Perhaps you'd like to take
    the opportunity to refresh our memory ?
    The point of all this garble, and it is, don't believe everything you read and it isn't valid unless you quote it. However said person with a name starting with C is one better, unlike us can do things we can't, like kiss my arse, but he can.
    But that is all not bad there is a positive to that. If you have sunburnt lips cassindra, it will stop you licking them." Granstar".
    "If you ever need anything please don’t hesitate to ask someone else first.”

    Anyhoo don't forget to add to calendar 19th May, 27th July, and 31 August.
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    C... Cassina, how come you have your name on the side of Rossi's car?

    http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2017/1...history/247635
    Cheers

    Merv

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    Quote Originally Posted by granstar View Post
    The point of all this garble, and it is, don't believe everything you read and it isn't valid unless you quote it. However said person with a name starting with C is one better, unlike us can do things we can't, like kiss my arse, but he can.
    But that is all not bad there is a positive to that. If you have sunburnt lips cassindra, it will stop you licking them.
    A lot of opinion here, hadn't you better start quoting?

    Cheers

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