BUACA: Bikers United Against Child Abuse - Australia

[Spook]

Geez it's hard to be constructive with assinine postings like this. Maybe BaldyPete and Spook should be locked in a room with all these abusers so they can talk some sense into them Though what comes out now appears that the focus of the group is protecting male children from homosexual paedophiles. Not sure how an abused girl would receive a group of men on bikes....but if you had female members....

Well this is an exclusive club! You have to be a REAL man (whatever that is), so presumably women (of either orientation) and gay men would be excluded.

Silver spooners? Don't know about real abuse? You don't me...you never will. I see you lot (BUACA) more in the role of abusers than anybody I've met on KB.

Well this is an exclusive club! You have to be a REAL man (whatever that is), so presumably women (of either orientation) and gay men would be excluded.

This shows how you are NOT paying attention Bluninja person, while jumping up and down stomping ya little foot.

And the discussion continues, some taking lead to back out, some taking the lead to do all they can to discredit themselves and their own name. Wonder what your mates think of you now. But with people like yourself that aren't able to take on something this large, Thats; ok, you can wander off and do your own thing. Leave it to those that have the strength. Making things up about the club wont keep us from ending up doing what we do and those slamming the 1% clubs are simply narrowminded.

I ask again, is this an over 18 forum, but it sure as hell dont feel like it! I feel like Im talking to a bunch of spoilt kids that have no interest in anything outside their own realm.

You didnt happen to notice that BUACA invites women, and if you are Gay Bluninja, noone is going to know nor discriminate against you,..but you missed that point because you were too busy blowing your own horn and inventing your own rules for us without making intelligent considerations, ......................and that again is sad.

............. *sigh

I feel sorry for you that you cant and wont stand up with the rest of those that will. However,...Freedom of choice is inevitable.
Watch the streets, the club 'will' appear all around you. Not IF,..but WHEN.

And it's disappointing to see others wimping out. I expected more initially, I admit that some people here are more interested in jumping on a negative band wagon full of clowns and more into themselves than the welfare of others. Selfish bastards. My, what a wonderful life you've had. What about those that havent had that life....or are having their life TAKEN from them? What have you ever done to help anyone?

We see it will take time, but time is something 'we' have plenty of. Backing away from something you feel you cant deal with is not the way to live your life. You'll spend the rest of life backing away from your own soul.
Sad.....


make a stand


Spook

[Jackrat]

Slaming the 1% clubs???
It,s the truth and we both know it.
And this is just why you will not be taken seriously here.
But as the old saying goes,,,never let the truth get in the way of a good yarn huh.No that would reqiure a bit of personal honesty and soul searching.
There is no way in hell I will support an organisation that has at it's core supporters of the 1% clubs that I KNOW from personal experience are producing the family destroying drugs that lead directly to child abuse of varying types that you profess to be against.
You sir are a fucking liar,two faced oppertunist,preying on the emotions and fears of REAL people.Keep your crap we already have better people on the job.

[Spook]

Slaming the 1% clubs???
It,s the truth and we both know it.
And this is just why you will not be taken seriously here.
But as the old saying goes,,,never let the truth get in the way of a good yarn huh.No that would reqiure a bit of personal honesty and soul searching.
There is no way in hell I will support an organisation that has at it's core supporters of the 1% clubs that I KNOW from personal experience are producing the family destroying drugs that lead directly to child abuse of varying types that you profess to be against.
You sir are a fucking liar,two faced oppertunist,preying on the emotions and fears of REAL people.Keep your crap we already have better people on the job.

Would you like some cheese with that Whine?

And please JR, this aint the place to badmouth the 1%ers, callin 'em drug dealers and such. That's jest downright rude mate.
And the club will appear on your street one day...... doing it for the kids. It's just a fact of life, get over it.


and opportunist? yes I am,..you spelt 'Opportunist' wrong mate......

[jrandom]

Fuxache but this is ugly.

How hard would it be to politely detail funds raised, social-work type organisations supported, publicity campaigns mounted, etc? Or any other presumably useful action taken. Assuming these BU-whatever people actually do any of the above, as opposed to riding around pretending to be Hells Angels.

The literacy (or lack thereof) and (presumably) associated intelligence of the spokespeople for the club in this thread gives me a very uneasy feeling about the likelihood of them doing any real good. I dislike stereotyping, but it sure sounds like most of them are likely to have crawled out from under a wet rock in the demographic that causes most of the 'violence against children' problem in the first place.

I stay with my original comment. This whole rigmarole smells like nothing more than a bunch of rednecks getting excited about a badly-thought-out justification to behave like badasses.

[Spook]

Fuxache but this is ugly.

How hard would it be to politely detail funds raised, social-work type organisations supported, publicity campaigns mounted, etc? Or any other presumably useful action taken. Assuming these BU-whatever people actually do any of the above, as opposed to riding around pretending to be Hells Angels.

The literacy (or lack thereof) and (presumably) associated intelligence of the spokespeople for the club in this thread gives me a very uneasy feeling about the likelihood of them doing any real good. I dislike stereotyping, but it sure sounds like most of them are likely to have crawled out from under a wet rock in the demographic that causes most of the 'violence against children' problem in the first place.

I stay with my original comment. This whole rigmarole smells like nothing more than a bunch of rednecks getting excited about a badly-thought-out justification to behave like badasses.

Another sterotypical comment. Is this all you've got to say? You bleat on like ya little mate above.

And.....Pretending to be HA? Ooh dear, another slap at the 1%ers...Leave the lads alone, take as many swipes at us as you like, but lets leave the HA outa this conversation, that's simply not nice. Is it...

and I dont think you've noticed but you and your comments are deeply embedded in the minority here. But please, dont get me wrong, I respect your right to be a dick.

[jrandom]

You bleat on ... I dont think you've noticed but you and your comments are deeply embedded in the minority here

Embedded in the minority? That happens to be something I've been proud of all my life. In this case it seems to be the same minority I usually find myself in, ie, one comprised of people who think for themselves.

Along related lines, Spook, you might like to try googling for 'logical fallacies'. The results will hopefully enlighten you as to why your comments have put me off the idea of your club.

[midway]

I think that after following the developments and discussions on this board that I will wade in the deep end here with a couple of comments of my
own.
I personally know the potential members who are trying very hard to establish buaca in Australia. None are members of outlaw clubs,but a group of well respected like minded people who happen to ride bikes for the pleasure of it, and perhaps as a formed group they can make a difference to
some childs life to make it that more enjoyable while they are still a child.
That may be through raising awareness of abused childrens plight in the public arena,financially assisting the community and government bodies that are struggling to cope with monetary cuts, or just giving some child a run around the roads on a bike.Who cares how, but as a group of like minded people enjoying their bikes what could be more worthwhile.
I am a female and I sit on the passengers seat of a bike, but I will do what I can to help a worthy cause.I am not a outlaw member.In fact I have worked for a conservative political party in this country and am now a student.I know spook well and know that he holds a very good position in a media group
Just because people from different walks of life are trying to come together to make a difference is great.All they are doing is attempting to do is to plant the seed to you guys.So expand your minds and your lives a little and perhaps someone else will benefit.

[jrandom]

I personally know the potential members who are trying very hard to establish buaca in Australia. None are members of outlaw clubs,but a group of well respected like minded people who happen to ride bikes for the pleasure of it ...

Ooooh. Happen to ride HDs for the pleasure of it, you mean. As opposed to those of us who, say, ride bikes 30 miles to work every day, rain or shine, because we believe they are a better and more worthy form of transport in our smog-choked, gridlocked cities.

The worthiness of 'doing something for the children' is beyond a truism. So far beyond, in fact, that in another motorcycling forum I frequent, "think of the children" is a well-trotted-out line when sarcasm is called for.

Choosing more eloquent and politic spokespeople might be a good idea for the club. Making a good case for any real effect it could have would be another excellent idea, too.

History is littered with the well-meant corpses of ideas along the lines of 'trying to come together to make a difference'. My personal suspicion is that the BUACA members are in love with the glory of their chrome tractors and have a deep desire to share that love. 'Thinking of the children' adds a lovely tinge of shallow do-gooderism to the mix, and hey presto... you have middle-aged accountants riding around on Harleys, failing to make a difference but feeling their testicles grow perceptibly with every mile, in their minds' eyes at least.

Hence my skepticism.

[Spook]

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[Spook]

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[midway]

you have middle-aged accountants riding around on Harleys,

To quote you!!

Main bkie FXR150
I spend all my workdays at my desk in front of my 'puter and get bored occasionally. How's that for an answer?
Sounds like a public servant with a bike

[Spook]

you have middle-aged accountants riding around on Harleys,

To quote you!!

Main bkie FXR150
I spend all my workdays at my desk in front of my 'puter and get bored occasionally. How's that for an answer?
Sounds like a public servant with a bike

Actually we're looking fer a good bean counter right now,...gotta keep them pennies in order

[jrandom]

Nobody wouldnt let a dick like you get involved. It's for the strong only, and YOu are a weak bastard.

Eh, bro, you've got an extraneous 'nt' after the 'would' there that rather detracts from the impact. Double negatives, and all that. I grasp your general idea, though, but my involvement isn't really the point, is it? It's more the entire BUACA idea.

You might also do better in any debate to avoid tinges of "I hate you, so there, and you can't play in *my* treehouse" if you want a group membership that really does fit your cross-societal ideals. What's the goal of your comment? Do you really wish to persuade me?

The kids are better off without you an your Apathetic bullshit.

And they're better off *with* you and your... what? Large shiny bike? Persuasive political activism that might change the way your country polices such social menaces? You have one, but as far as I can tell, you lack the other.

[Spook]

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*(I hope this Jrindom guy aint suffering from CC envy, I mean 150cc?? they still make them things? sorry I know it's low but.....150cc? my lawn mower's got more grunt than that)

...and I aint ya Bro, ya gotta earn that right


ok nuff said I think we know who's not getting icecream tonight.....

Anyone who wants to get in contact do so from the Websites.



Spook
SA BUACA
"Because no child should live in fear"

[jrandom]

Main bkie FXR150
I spend all my workdays at my desk in front of my 'puter and get bored occasionally. How's that for an answer?
Sounds like a public servant with a bike

Heh, I'm not working in the gummint or public sector by any stretch of the imagination... but doesn't your attempting to *insult* me with the term 'public servant' have interesting undertones in this discussion?