Call for motorcyclists to stop 'lane splitting' overtaking after 10 riders die in Jan

[Woodman]

It would be real easy at the time of a motorcycle crash to determine if the rider was group riding or not as their group riding friends would be at the scene as well.

Possibly, but if they were real friends then they would just say they were "traffic" to save the guy the increased acc levies.

[eldog]

Anything wrong in adding motorcycles to T2/T3/Bus lanes?
Shirley motorcycles are more economical/create less congestion than a single passenger vehicle?

well maybe not in Gore...

[Akzle]

even those on welfare pay tax

prove it .

[skippa1]

you're a fuckwit

Is this news

[FJRider]

prove it .

Most of the Benefits are taxable . As is ACC compensation payments taxable ...


https://www.workandincome.govt.nz/pr...pril-2017.html

[FJRider]

It would be real easy at the time of a motorcycle crash to determine if the rider was group riding or not as their group riding friends would be at the scene as well.

So ... motorcycles can't group ride ... but cars can group drive ... even with the "Boy-Racer" bylaws on the major cities ... ???

[FJRider]

Anything wrong in adding motorcycles to T2/T3/Bus lanes?
Shirley motorcycles are more economical/create less congestion than a single passenger vehicle?

Motorcyclists sharing a lane ... ??? How rude to think THAT should happen ...

well maybe not in Gore...

Yeah well ... not much call for bus lanes in Gore. They only got a bike lane just recently ...

[Moi]

Anything wrong in adding motorcycles to T2/T3/Bus lanes?
Shirley motorcycles are more economical/create less congestion than a single passenger vehicle?

well maybe not in Gore...

https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/m...rcycle-safety/

[Berries]

When I read in that article that there is a different law on local roads to highways I realised it was a crock of shit. I also took from the headline that ten riders had been killed while lane splitting which surprised me. But then it said there were eight riders and two pillions killed so who knows how many crashes so I thought I would have a look.

As always, never good reading when you get in to the nitty gritty. So far only five crashes have made it on to the national database -

In one crash the rider overtook a number of cars and didn’t get back on his side in time so hit an oncoming car head on. That should get cassina going.

In another a bike hit a car head on a winding road, no fault given to the car driver. Not much information on that one.

In another the rider overtook a car in front as a ute in front of the car turned right.

And then another where the rider went wide on a right hand bend and left the road – riding with others but no evidence of being under pressure to keep up and not overtaking at the time.

Finally we have a truck failing to give way to a moped at a crossroads.

No crashes lane splitting but two as a result of overtaking, using the generally accepted term for overtaking which is passing on the right. This article just confuses the shit out of me because there is a massive difference between lane splitting between two lanes of traffic going the same way where you have to try quite hard to kill yourself and overtaking on the right with oncoming traffic where to be honest you could be wiped out at any moment.

Anyroad, confusing story with a confusing headline. Figured something was wrong when I found myself agreeing with that arse with the sideburns.

[Reckless]

Again we cant have a half intelligent conversation about an article without stupid bitch Cassina turning it into a "Cassina Group riding stouch"
So the whole thread AGAIN becomes about her???

When the fuck are the Mods going to kick her the fuck outa here or you fuckheads going to ignore "everything" she posts incl the "you're a Fuckwit" responses.
Shes an attention slut, any attention is fine!

Over 10 years on here, been some jerks over the years but never more felt like relinquishing my log on to Kiwibiker

Rant over

[eldog]

https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/m...rcycle-safety/

I musta forgotten about that.

but WHY don’t they put that on the road signs?

i saw this out West AKL the other night, wondered about this.....
saw the thread.... guess I was too tired at 2400 to remember.

Bus only lanes, probably the reason why I haven’t used T2,T3 lanes.
i am one of those people if the did it once wrong, I would get nailed.

[eldog]

Motorcyclists sharing a lane ... ??? How rude to think THAT should happen ...

Funny you should write that.

i SHARED a lane the other night on a dead straight bit of road.
lucky I was on the left hand painted edge, the other bike took the rest of the lane, it was going in the OPPOSITE direction.

it was on my side of the road.

i have no idea how it missed me

so grateful I was keeping an eye out.

for quite a while after, I thought seriously about giving up riding it was that close.
i still have flashbacks whew.

[Akzle]

Is this news

no. but if everyone else stopped trying to discuss anything with it, and all it ever got was negative re-inforcement for being here spouting it's horseshit, it might just fuck off.
(or, exceedingly less likely: buck up, learn something and engage in positive discussion)

[Akzle]

:

Over 10 years on here, been some jerks over the years but never more felt like relinquishing my log on to Kiwibiker

:

hell son, don't let us keep you.

[Akzle]

I musta forgotten about that.

but WHY don’t they put that on the road signs?

i saw this out West AKL the other night, wondered about this.....
saw the thread.... guess I was too tired at 2400 to remember.

Bus only lanes, probably the reason why I haven’t used T2,T3 lanes.
i am one of those people if the did it once wrong, I would get nailed.

too tired to realise 2400 isn't a time?