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    Maybee Cassina is a propaganda machine editor...
    I mean "calls to stop lane spitting after 10 deaths", has shit all to nothing to do with lane splitting & shows no relation between deaths & splitting or why it should be considered for discussion but somehow "lane-splitting is the cause"
    "any thread ever" usually shit all to nothing to do with group riding shows no relation to the discussion but somehow "group riding is the cause of all problems for bikes" and is important to be in every thread ever

    Fun Fact (for Cassina) Most lane splitting is done singular during commute, NOT on weekend group rides; & no, 2 or more bikers in vicinity of each other on their way to work does NOT constitute a "group ride"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    too tired to realise 2400 isn't a time?
    'Tis on my cooker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    too tired to realise 2400 isn't a time?
    On a 24 hour clock, well I never.
    got home at 0100 if that helps.

    up past your bedtime eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    On a 24 hour clock, well I never.
    got home at 0100 if that helps.

    up past your bedtime eh?
    day starts at 00:00.

    finishes at 23:59:59:99

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    day starts at 00:00.

    finishes at 23:59:59:99
    whatever happened to the decimal system?

    someone should read the Californian method of lane splitting, its a sensible approach.

    they have a decent number of lanes, and a much higher speed.

    but the drivers seem to have a different approach. not all trying to get 1 car length ahead. like AKL ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    whatewver happened to the decimal system?
    sounds stupid.
    shit's based on circles.

    but that's mix n match hours:minutes:seconds:split (1/100)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    whatewver happened to the decimal system?

    someone should read the Californian method of lane splitting, its a sensible approach.

    they have a decent number of lanes, and a much higher speed.

    but the drivers are seem to have a different approach. not all trying to get 1 car length ahead. like NZ ones
    Fixed it for you

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    I have searched the Stuff website for articles on motorcycle deaths since Jan 1. I found 10 articles specifying fatal motorcycles crashes.

    Of these , not a single one had anything to do with lane splitting. In fact, except for one, which was on a racetrack, all were on one lane each way country-ish roads. I could tell this because Stuff , conveniently though pruriently usually include pictures of the crash site (often with the mangled bike for a bit more sensationalism).

    So, the article is pure falsehood.

    I shall be lodging a formal complaint with the Press Council

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    So, the article is pure falsehood.


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    At least it takes the heat off those dangerous FOREIGN drivers that are (apparently) a menace on NZ roads.

    Motorcyclists are (apparently) just a menace to themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    no. but if everyone else stopped trying to discuss anything with it, and all it ever got was negative re-inforcement for being here spouting it's horseshit, it might just fuck off.
    It hasn't worked so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I have searched the Stuff website for articles on motorcycle deaths since Jan 1. I found 10 articles specifying fatal motorcycles crashes.

    Of these , not a single one had anything to do with lane splitting. In fact, except for one, which was on a racetrack, all were on one lane each way country-ish roads. I could tell this because Stuff , conveniently though pruriently usually include pictures of the crash site (often with the mangled bike for a bit more sensationalism).

    So, the article is pure falsehood.

    I shall be lodging a formal complaint with the Press Council

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    Good on ya Ix.

    "stuff" is nothing more than a gossip site, which has standards of journalism that could walk under a snake's arse whilst wearing a top hat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    'Tis on my cooker.
    24.00 or 24:00 is a time. 2400 is not ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    no. but if everyone else stopped trying to discuss anything with it, and all it ever got was negative re-inforcement for being here spouting it's horseshit, it might just fuck off.
    (or, exceedingly less likely: buck up, learn something and engage in positive discussion)
    If I continually told you that you were a Fuckwit ... would YOU go away .. ??? (or stay just to piss me off .. ??)
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    Seems the consensus is that Stuff?/Fairfax cannot write for shit, unfortunately we (including myself) continue to give them oxygen by reading their uninformed shit.
    I see pretty reasonable comments on here, apart from she who cannot be named. What I read of the Stuff comments was disappointing, either car drivers screaming for a ban or riders screaming it was all the car drivers fault. Few if any taking ownership of their own contribution to the issues around filtering.

    As a commuter, I try to time my trips to avoid the buildups requiring filtering but that is not always possible or predictable. When I do filter I have a set of self imposed rules I follow.

    1. When the speed of traffic exceeds 35kph I am looking for a gap to rejoin normal traffic. I can happily keep my bike balanced moving at 5-7kph but the bike is inherently less stable and its harder work. Its easier to move at 10-20kph. So when things get to 35+kph my stability is absolutely not compromised and I am less likely to have a car pull a fast lane change with no indication or looking, its harder for them to do it while stationery or at low speed, they are basically lazy fuckers.
    2. I do not filter past major merges. Too many things going on, cars moving from the nearside to offside lane, aggressive merging vehicles who just plough on whether or not anyone is giving them room etc etc
    3. I do not filter in the rain. Visibility is reduced, things get blurry, majority of road users make NO allowance for changing conditions so it all becomes too risky.
    4. I do not use the hard shoulder. Car drivers are used to the idea of traffic on their right when in multilane roads, they are not used to vehicles on the hard shoulder and it pisses everyone off.
    5. I do not filter approaching a bus stop. Those fuckers (the bus drivers, not the bus stops) are just evil and will drive right over you.
    6. I do not use my indicator. That sends confusing messages, I am not changing lanes, I am using space in the lane I am already moving in. For visibility I have a big fuck off LED headlight, two big fuck off Aux LED lights all on a big fuck off bike and I wear a white helmet. If they don't see that, a wee blinking orange light will make bugger all difference.

    So far that has worked for me. Others will take a different approach which is I am sure equally successful for them. I do find it hard to understand the people who split when the traffic is moving nicely at 80/90 kph and that isn't fast enough!

    I wonder, if we had some kind of law like the Aussies have been using, would that avoid the apparent confusion for all concerned? It would make very clear that what seems to be getting classed on here as dodgy or ill advised would become unequivocally illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    24.00 or 24:00 is a time. 2400 is not ...
    Www.militarytimechart.com

    have a read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi View Post
    6. I do not use my indicator. That sends confusing messages, I am not changing lanes, I am using space in the lane I am already moving in. For visibility I have a big fuck off LED headlight, two big fuck off Aux LED lights all on a big fuck off bike and I wear a white helmet. If they don't see that, a wee blinking orange light will make bugger all difference.
    Yea I don't run indicator for the same reason.
    Alot of cage drivers are struggling just to keep their cages on the road I don't like to confuse them with an indicator; I'll use it when I'm wanting to pull back into their line of traffic or turn off
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