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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Motorcycle dynamics would make a great masters degree topic. It's that complex.

    That's why we stick to the basics on courses. Until someone has a deep understanding of motorcycle dynamics ( I don't) the advanced stuff is like black magic.

    We dont talk about counter steering on Ride Forever courses. It opens too many cans of worms.
    That's quite a surprising comment. Cheers for the input.

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    Do our south island lakes freeze up enough for this?

    https://www.facebook.com/artur.czaja...1346166560342/

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    Quote Originally Posted by old slider View Post
    Do our south island lakes freeze up enough for this?

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    Used to they used to put cars on Lake Lyndon & Ida quite regularly during the winter and have seen bikes playing around at Siberia the bottom south corner of Lake Tekapo but that's all some bloody skating winter playground nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Used to they used to put cars on Lake Lyndon & Ida quite regularly during the winter and have seen bikes playing around at Siberia the bottom south corner of Lake Tekapo but that's all some bloody skating winter playground nowadays.
    The skaters could play "dodge the bike"... Darwin might well approve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Used to they used to put cars on Lake Lyndon & Ida quite regularly during the winter and have seen bikes playing around at Siberia the bottom south corner of Lake Tekapo but that's all some bloody skating winter playground nowadays.

    Awesome, I can just imagine the fun to be had on a speedway ice rink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old slider View Post
    Awesome, I can just imagine the fun to be had on a speedway ice rink.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    The skaters could play "dodge the bike"... Darwin might well approve.
    The bikes at tekapo used to entertaining enough as it was by themselves an old XR500 is a fucking handful on that shit

    Quote Originally Posted by old slider View Post
    Awesome, I can just imagine the fun to be had on a speedway ice rink.
    I'm sure there's one or two cars at the bottom of Lyndon, they used to tow around people old sofas etc
    Ice speedway is crazy shit those spikes do some serious damage....have an old mag some where with articles on it with pics of racers boots ripped to shreds etc

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    Thanks Moi and T.W.R those clips on ice racing are great, I agree those tyre spikes would leave a bit of a rash, made me remember the time a young fella was keen to get in the dark house with a dozen extremely excited fallow deer, he finally came out when we opened the door for him after a lot of squeals and yelps looking fairly disheveled and his cloths torn to shreds. lol

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    Just to chuck some more petrol onto the fire...

    Manopausal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    Just to chuck some more petrol onto the fire...


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    That is so fucking gay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    It's not rocket science mate.
    Roundy bit on right makes roundy bits on bottom go round more fasterer!

    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Motorcycle dynamics would make a great masters degree topic. It's that complex.
    Just precession, physics 101. Applying it to the off road guys doing whips may be final year shit though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Roundy bit on right makes roundy bits on bottom go round more fasterer!
    You know it. 101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    That is so fucking gay.

    It's weird for sure. There are little scooters with similar set-up running about.

    I'm interested in how this is picked up by the MC masses - a conservative bunch under the leather and abnormal front ends have not been well received over the years. Having said that there is no doubt shit loads of potential riders put off after crashing on their first experience who this may appeal to.

    Are they able to be raced against two wheeled bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    It's weird for sure. There are little scooters with similar set-up running about.

    I'm interested in how this is picked up by the MC masses - a conservative bunch under the leather and abnormal front ends have not been well received over the years. Having said that there is no doubt shit loads of potential riders put off after crashing on their first experience who this may appeal to.

    Are they able to be raced against two wheeled bikes?
    The wee scooters, Piaggios, Yammie Tricity etc are very cool commute scoots. No idea how they "handle". The Niken may well be push me pull me. It is a behemoth.
    Manopausal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    The wee scooters, Piaggios, Yammie Tricity etc are very cool commute scoots. No idea how they "handle". The Niken may well be push me pull me. It is a behemoth.
    I ride both a MP3 and a conventional bike, once underway there is very little that I notice to be different from one to the other - apart from the fact that the MP3 is more surefooted in its front than the bike, especially when the road is wet...

    And what's this "wee scooters" bit?

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