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    if only cars obeyed the road code and "kept left" we'd be fine.

    "isnt splitting dangerous?" they say... "only if you dont follow the road code and use defensive driving techniques" I say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reckless View Post
    Thanks for that Mr Meterman :P

    I try to explain to people its impossible not to break the passing law when we split as it stands atm.
    So from the vid we can take it that Police have decided to ignore the impracticality of the illegal undertaking part (dumb law) and focus on safety.
    Wether this be national or just in Manukau is another matter. Remember that guy at the bottom of the Ngauranga Gorge in Welly haha he could still get ya :P

    Look guys we are prob better off the way it is in the hands of the officer on the day as if we get a new law they'll make it max speed 40k and we will still break it anyway.
    The Aussie states have created lane splitting laws. Maybe we will too.

    It'll be interesting to see what boundaries they set around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    From my daily drive on the Southern Motorway, hazard lights are the in thing, and splitting at speed on nicely flowing traffic...
    Friday afternoon travelling north on southern before we all got to do the Takanini Tango Tangle, traffic flowing nicely at a sensible 90-95km/h. But not enough for two sportbikes which were "filtering" through every thing at 110km/h+... All lovely until something happens and one or both become human crayons...

    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    if only cars obeyed the road code and "kept left" we'd be fine...
    That would mean the drivers taking their hands off their mobile devices and holding them up in front of their face while they stretched out their thumbs to see which hand/thumb made the "L" shape to indicate "Left"...

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    I filter, I decide when I think it's safe and when I think it isn't.

    I filter with my Hazards on - because the greater number of Flashing lights I'm legally allowed to have on my bike, the greater the chance that someone will notice it (and therefore notice me).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I filter with my Hazards on - because the greater number of Flashing lights I'm legally allowed to have on my bike, the greater the chance that someone will notice it (and therefore notice me).
    The amount of lights you have are irrelevant. As I have said before, if they cant see a bus, or a truck, or another car, they are sure as hell not going to see you. You could have a search light from the Air Force Orion strapped to your bike strobing like a mobile disco and they STILL wouldnt see you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I filter, I decide when I think it's safe and when I think it isn't.

    I filter with my Hazards on - because the greater number of Flashing lights I'm legally allowed to have on my bike, the greater the chance that someone will notice it (and therefore notice me).
    While your at it use the horn when filtering, then motorists will know the circus is coming past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    That's why there's a catch-all ticket for "Overtaking In An Unsafe Manner". Weighing in at $150.
    It could be (probably will be) argued that if the overtaking was done without crashing or injury, then it is patently safe...


    Quote Originally Posted by iYRe View Post
    I know 3 people who now no longer are able to ride, and several more who were injured because they a: stopped in a line of traffic at some lights and were rear ended - they weren't seen because they blended in with the vehicle in front or b: were sitting in the lane travelling at the same speed as the car and got side swiped because the driver only saw a gap.

    35 years in auckland traffic and I refuse to do either of those things. If it happens to you, there is nowhere to go, no escape route.
    My point was: I filter lots. Seriously, large amounts of filtering and pootle to the head of the queue all the time.
    When I'm driving the car, I have to resist the temptation to "head for the gap" and filter...
    Well, until I get my dream vehicle which is a monster truck snowplough with the > shaped front on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    ... When I'm driving the car, I have to resist the temptation to "head for the gap" and filter...
    Well, until I get my dream vehicle which is a monster truck snowplough with the > shaped front on it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Friday afternoon travelling north on southern before we all got to do the Takanini Tango Tangle, traffic flowing nicely at a sensible 90-95km/h. But not enough for two sportbikes which were "filtering" through every thing at 110km/h+... All lovely until something happens and one or both become human crayons...
    Hmmm.... I was there on Friday afternoon too! Was on the bike sitting in moving traffic at about 80 km/hr. A sportsbike which was orange and grey shot through two lines of traffic at over the limit. Ok, an accident waiting to happen, but what was the point when the traffic was flowing freely? Wonder how much time he saved and what his stress levels were like?

    Harrumph - must be getting old

    Actually, I had to filter on the Southern Motorway heading south on early Saturday morning due to an accident near Hill Rd. Was pretty impressed that cars were clearly using their mirrors as many of them increased the gap for me - awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
    Hmmm.... I was there on Friday afternoon too! Was on the bike sitting in moving traffic at about 80 km/hr. A sportsbike which was orange and grey shot through two lines of traffic at over the limit. Ok, an accident waiting to happen, but what was the point when the traffic was flowing freely? Wonder how much time he saved and what his stress levels were like?

    Harrumph - must be getting old

    Actually, I had to filter on the Southern Motorway heading south on early Saturday morning due to an accident near Hill Rd. Was pretty impressed that cars were clearly using their mirrors as many of them increased the gap for me - awesome!
    Neither of the bikes was painted in undercoat grey, so definitely wasn't you...

    I think the two we saw were probably not capable of registering "stress"...

    True about many drivers being more aware, found that in the last couple of years of commuting.

    We'd driven north from the Manawatu on Friday, via National Park, and enjoyed the sight of a group of Milwaukee Tractors muscling their way through traffic approaching the roundabout at the Waitomo Caves junction - but even those things can't muscle a B-train out of the way...

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    And then there are the two cocks whi split up Main North Road this afternoon.

    Traffic travelling at 60, speed limit 60. These two cocks hurtled up the middle of the two lanes at maybe 80 ish. Like Darwin nominees.

    Wonder not why cops come down harsh at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    And then there are the two cocks whi split up Main North Road this afternoon.

    Traffic travelling at 60, speed limit 60. These two cocks hurtled up the middle of the two lanes at maybe 80 ish. Like Darwin nominees.

    Wonder not why cops come down harsh at times.
    You have just described an event from January 2017 while the traffic was at a standstill around Paikakariki (Southward Car Museum)

    2 loud sound powered bikes weaving at speed through multiple lanes of stationary traffic.

    after quite a while in the heat, I finally came upon those likely lads, having an interview with the local

    meanwhile the rest of the traffic whom they had passed slowly cruised past.

    this was around that same time of all the hoopla about more lanes opening......


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    If you're in slow moving traffic and start filtering, check very carefully that there isn't someone behind you already doing it at warp speed. That's definitely the scariest moment I've had filtering.

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    What gets me is the number of tin tops that state they were 'surprised' when a bike goes past them in the gap.

    FFS, bikes lane split every day on the motorway. Why the F$% is it a surprise.

    When I'm in the cage, I KNOW there will be bikes lane splitting. I'm certainly not 'surprised' as they go past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Sounds like sage advice.
    A bit of advise from a north cantab
    I've just started riding to work from Tram Road each day. Traffic on Marshlands Road is bad, can I use the shoulder to cruise passed?

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