Well that's a new one...

[Pound]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-time...ight-turned-on


I can ride 80km on my Fireblade after the fuel light goes on. .....

[TheDemonLord]

this?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-time...ight-turned-on

[caspernz]

Nah not really, it's part of the pre-check that's expected. Thou shalt have enough fuel for the intended journey. How VTNZ T/O dealt with it could have been better. You'll get a ticket for running out of fuel on a motorway after all...

[TheDemonLord]

Pound - you're really not having much luck with editing posts today are you!

[Pound]

Pound - you're really not having much luck with editing posts today are you!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[neels]

It seems the testers are actively looking for reasons to fail people, or in the case of our son who failed twice with the same tester actually making things up that aren't in the NZTA test guide, it's almost like it's good for business having people paying for repeat tests or something....

These people have done the right thing making a complaint, we did the same and when there was a dickhead response from VTNZ continued up to NZTA, ended up with a refund of 2 test fees.

[Scuba_Steve]

It seems the testers are actively looking for reasons to fail people, or in the case of our son who failed twice with the same tester actually making things up that aren't in the NZTA test guide, it's almost like it's good for business having people paying for repeat tests or something....

These people have done the right thing making a complaint, we did the same and when there was a dickhead response from VTNZ continued up to NZTA, ended up with a refund of 2 test fees.

Just like the WoF system the licence testers have a fail quota to meet. Still say hand the licencing over to computas then you pass/fail on your own skill level not a arbitrary quota or how good your tits look that day

[GazzaH]

Just like the WoF system the licence testers have a fail quota to meet. Still say hand the licencing over to computas then you pass/fail on your own skill level not a arbitrary quota or how good your tits look that day

Years ago, I tried to get my employer interested in making driving simulators that could be used worldwide for this very purpose. They made simulators for a large commercial market and were making so much money doing so that my idea didn't even get a look-in. Not a peep.

I'm with you, Scuba. On a decent sim, every physical parameter of the person's driving can be measured - reaction times, steering responses, braking pressure, speed, signalling, following distance, stopping distance, reaction to skids, observation, whatever ... all while navigating a computer-generated but highly realistic course, complete with all manner of situations and challenges. Night driving? Easy. Ice? Snow? Kids chasing balls? Motorcyclists lane-splitting? Easy peasy, and all perfectly safe (aside from the realistic shock factor!). The sim could randomize the course so no two runs are the same, and adapt the challenges according to the driver's reactions, exploring any problem areas in more depth.

[T.W.R]

Years ago, I tried to get my employer interested in making driving simulators that could be used worldwide for this very purpose. They made simulators for a large commercial market and were making so much money doing so that my idea didn't even get a look-in. Not a peep.

I'm with you, Scuba. On a decent sim, every physical parameter of the person's driving can be measured - reaction times, steering responses, braking pressure, speed, signalling, following distance, stopping distance, reaction to skids, observation, whatever ... all while navigating a computer-generated but highly realistic course, complete with all manner of situations and challenges. Night driving? Easy. Ice? Snow? Kids chasing balls? Motorcyclists lane-splitting? Easy peasy, and all perfectly safe (aside from the realistic shock factor!). The sim could randomize the course so no two runs are the same, and adapt the challenges according to the driver's reactions, exploring any problem areas in more depth.

Force Dynamics have been doing it for a while

https://www.force-dynamics.com/

[AllanB]

There are some silly stories coming out of CHCH of fails. Car is too dirty ..... that type of shit.

[sidecar bob]

Just like the WoF system the licence testers have a fail quota to meet.

Fake news alert.

[GazzaH]

Force Dynamics have been doing it for a while

https://www.force-dynamics.com/

It seems they make driving sims, yes, but do they do the measurement and assessment stuff?

Imagine being able to teach and check out learner drivers purely on a good sim, with no need to let them loose on the road until they achieve a basic standard.

Imagine being able to recreate accident scenarios and measure the reactions of a bunch of drivers, to see whether any of them would have avoided the prangs, or made them even worse.

A world of possibilities.

[eldog]

Do they fail them if they get a flat?
unable to change a tyre?

[HEsch]

During my CBTA testing, we stopped at a petrol station in the warm-up/lesson part
Much better system.

[T.W.R]

It seems they make driving sims, yes, but do they do the measurement and assessment stuff?

Imagine being able to teach and check out learner drivers purely on a good sim, with no need to let them loose on the road until they achieve a basic standard.

Imagine being able to recreate accident scenarios and measure the reactions of a bunch of drivers, to see whether any of them would have avoided the prangs, or made them even worse.

A world of possibilities.

With applying it to a proper assessment system there'd be plenty of software suitable to measure & assess drivers.
These guys use a less advanced simulator for driving assessment...DrivewiseBC

https://drivewisebc.com/driving-simulator/