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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    Aww, bless him. Douglas Adams.

    This chicken thing has got me shaking my head. I teach food safety...

    The medium rare beef burger scandal is equally worrying. Admittedly MPI have come up with a solution. Wash your mince in peroxide.. Delicious.

    Food manufacturing regulations are pretty stringent but it seems like too much shit is still getting on to supermarket shelves. They can't be that effective.

    The legally required food control plan dictates that any food outlet supplying cooked chicken (or non blonde burgers) must record the internal temperature of any fowl sold or be able to prove that the recipe used meets their criteria.

    I am yet to understand how bacteria can get into the centre of a chicken breast, or leg, but is unable to mine it's way into a fillet steak.

    A mr steak is about 55c in the middle, MPI stipulate an internal temp of 75c for chicken. That's cardboard. 69/70c is moist and succulent.

    We like moist and succulent.

    Wash your hands, clean up thoroughly, eat it fresh. Dee-lish-us.



    It's a bit sad that TV is riddled with reality cooking programs (mainly shite) but the ability of the proles to cook is actually getting worse.
    i eat steak blue and it (arguably) hasn't caused me any brain damage.

    i do so like it when it's moist in the middle.

    and just to really derail my own thread, hormones! vaccines! and antibiotics! in the foodchain. also not good. but surely if they all worked... there wouldn't be sick chickens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimO View Post
    i got campylobacter from one of those cooked chickens, never again, lost 5kg in 3 days mostly out my arse
    That's mild for Camphylobacter. Back in the 90's I got it from a restaurant and lost 20kg in 3 days. What caught me out then was dehydration. Not fun.
    This lot luckily doesn't seem to be campy. Bad enough though due to complications from not having a gall bladder (mine...)

    Volty - just as happened to my wife, yours will get caught too - and suddenly you're back to home cooked chicken...

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    I've had food poisoning twice. Not an upset tummy and a couple of wet farts. Horrific vomiting and diarrohea to the point of unconsciousness.

    Most unpleasant.

    It's the biological equivalent of a toilet brush and bleach.

    My buzz word for food is provenance. I like to know where my food comes from, as much as possible. Not fanatical about it.
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    ... so, yes, it is not a joke. Luckily for most KBers, a few days on the bog are just a few days not biking, a rotten hardship maybe but hardly terminal (in most cases). Some people aren't so lucky lucky lucky: especially if they are already weak and infirm, a dose of Campylobacter, Salmonella, E. coli or whatever could be the final nail in the coffin.

    It's not just the cooking temperature that matters. Given enough food (doh!), most food poisoning bacteria multiply (double in maybe 60 mins, then double again, then again ...) quite happily at room temperature, quicker still at body temperature, all the while pumping out their nasty toxins.

    So, it's A Jolly Good Idea to keep raw meat chilled on the way back from the "super"market in a coolbag. Put a couple of deep-frozen blue blocks in yer back-box and don't hang around on a hot day. Park in the shade.

    When you get home, leap lithely off the bike and pop your meat in the fridge or freezer smartly. Oh and click the "super"cool button, especially if you have loaded up the fridge with a stack of slightly-warm produce.

    [I used to do science on the little buggers. I know my way around a Petri dish.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    I've had food poisoning twice. Not an upset tummy and a couple of wet farts. Horrific vomiting and diarrohea to the point of unconsciousness.

    Most unpleasant.

    It's the biological equivalent of a toilet brush and bleach.

    My buzz word for food is provenance. I like to know where my food comes from, as much as possible. Not fanatical about it.
    I was in Greece once and got invited to a beach BBQ and had some fish.Next day I had never been so sick before or since.

    Both ends for a few days, not nice when your on a bike and its 40+ degrees and you have to keep stopping and doing the 'Freedom

    Camper" thing....

    Was so crook booked an air conditioned cabin for the Greece/Italy crossing....fecking 100 quid, that was like 3 days travel money gone.

    Perked up about a week later in South of France but scheesh.....

    I think by the time I got back to the UK a couple of weeks later I had lost about 10 kgs.
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    A lot of it is not the chicken, it can be easily the person cooking it, the prep surfaces, the storage. Wash your hands, then wash them again.
    As a kid I worked in a poultry farm to save for a first motorcycle so know the shit that goes on in there prepping birds for sale, not for the fainthearted, poor birds.
    Then with tradecert both as a butcher and Food Hygiene i'm a bit of a fussy bugger with any food. Outdoor cooked meals also I would avoid chicken in less certain it is cooked right, as for eggs they give me the shits anyway. Had food poisoning once with a lot of vomiting, shitting, bad headaches and many days off work, took me a few years before I could touch straight Jim Beam again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    i eat steak blue and it (arguably) hasn't caused me any brain damage.

    i do so like it when it's moist in the middle.

    and just to really derail my own thread, hormones! vaccines! and antibiotics! in the foodchain. also not good. but surely if they all worked... there wouldn't be sick chickens.
    That's because Steak poses very little risk as all the bacteria is on the outer layer.
    Chicken is different in that the bacteria can be in the inside, but it is still tasty. But it does require more thorough cooking.
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    I reminder distinctly .




    Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken

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    I had food poisoning from chicken over twenty years ago. It took about 15 years before I'd eat chicken that I had not cooked myself.

    Eat it often now - cooked at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    I had food poisoning from chicken over twenty years ago. It took about 15 years before I'd eat chicken that I had not cooked myself.

    Eat it often now - cooked at home.
    Similar. I got a dose of camphylobacter maybe 12 years ago, stuck at home for about 5 days with symptoms gradually decreasing over a couple of weeks. Funny thing is, for years after that every time I tried chicken the symptoms would reoccur. As far as I'm aware there's no adequate pathological explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Similar. I got a dose of camphylobacter maybe 12 years ago, stuck at home for about 5 days with symptoms gradually decreasing over a couple of weeks. Funny thing is, for years after that every time I tried chicken the symptoms would reoccur. As far as I'm aware there's no adequate pathological explanation.
    I think Pavlov sorted that out...

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    Dehydration can be severe, for obvious reasons, and leads to or worsens other symptoms such as cramps, gut-ache and headache.

    Rehydration helps though - not beer, not lashings of warm tea, definitely not that expensive blue water in a squeezy bottle with a nipple.

    Dissolve 6 level teaspoons of sugar plus 1/2 level teaspoon of salt in a litre of clean water (recently boiled water is good as it is relatively sterile and the warmth helps the sugar and salt dissolve). If in doubt, use less sugar and especially less salt, or more water.

    Try to replace the fluids you are losing, roughly volume-for-volume.

    It works at the gym too, or on a long summer day's ride in the leathers.

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    Food prep by ‘supermarkets’ can be interesting subject. I only know from hearsay.... OMG.

    all down to people and how they prep and cook food.

    seen a restaurant deliver a chicken “cooked” with the blood still running out of it.
    a table of 20+ people almost left immediately. we never returned.

    the odd chuck now and then helps tighten those muscles you never knew you had.

    well done is my standard, but have enjoyed blue steak on the odd occasion.
    depends on cut and how it’s handled & cooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    I think Pavlov sorted that out...
    Oh aye, not unaware of the possibility. But it tended to happen only if I'd eaten a certain quantity. Just weird.
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    I think Pavlov sorted that out...
    By feeding the chicken to the dog...?
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    Oh yeah, for .... next time you let go in yer visor down helmet

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVXukm1lNOs

    Do remember to watch for food assistants prepping food at your chicken deli, avoid at any sign of a sniffle.
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