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    e-bikes are like e-cigs and e-mail and e-stroegen and e-cockupthebum and only for pussies who can't manage to do shit the man way.


    201. not a bad score for a country with a population five times that of the communist republic of nuu zullund. safer communities together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    or is a few tenths of a millimetre of lycra considered adequate?
    Isn't it funny how whenever you mention cyclists, the lycra hate immediately appears, even if it bears no resemblance to the average commuter on their e-bike.

    People need to be less fixated on stereotypes that have no basis in reality.
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    I think you may have jumped on that one a little prematurely. Read in conjunction with the link to Moped regs it's a valid question.

    If they get away with cycle gear on something which is capable of over 50kph then one of two things will happen - IMO anyway...

    Either ACC will find a way of registering/levying E bikes to cover costs...

    Or motorcyclists will have a valid argument for going back to the old rule of not needing a helmet for speeds below 50kph..

    I know which is more likely, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    e-bikes are like e-cigs and e-mail and e-stroegen and e-cockupthebum and only for pussies who can't manage to do shit the man way.


    201. not a bad score for a country with a population five times that of the communist republic of nuu zullund. safer communities together.
    Probably say the same for air guitars and air motorcycles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    As far as I know in NZ 'recycling " of lead/acid, lead/gel batteries mean they go in a container off to China or Korea.

    One of the other 'great' things of modern life is the plastic water bottle, healthy water for healthy lifestyle...


    I've seen the Chinese way of "Recycling" lead/acid batteries ... It's better for our environment if they do it in their back yard ... and not ours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    A total of 206 people died on bicycles and 201 in cars. This is the first time that ever happened. The figure for cycling deaths is also the highest in 11 years. The fatality increase is completely male.
    Obviously pressure to keep up on a group ride?






    A few years ago I looked at the idea of getting one to commute into town on. The price was far too high for what it was and I think it remains that way even now.
    For those who purchased one, good on them for getting out of their car and improving their health!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I've seen the Chinese way of "Recycling" lead/acid batteries ... It's better for our environment if they do it in their back yard ... and not ours.
    these are all lithium ion which are fantastic, environmentally speaking
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    these are all lithium ion which are fantastic, environmentally speaking
    Unfortunately the lithium ion ones often go to the same place, make a good bang when they hit the reduction furnace...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    So what would you estimate as the life expectancy of a male - say 30-40 - who hasn't ridden a pushbike in traffic since he left school ?

    I've got mates who have been dedicated cycle commuters and who tell me that finding alternative routes away from traffic is one of the first things to learn.
    No one teaches you these things. Maybe someone should....
    I have no idea what the stats are for that but theres a lot of fat cunts like me who decide "cycling will keep me fit" and "its the new golf" and "so many great business networking opportunities" and they dont want to get all grubby and havent got the skillz to ride a mountainbike so they go out and drop serious coin on a road bike (Pinarello? sure! Ultegra - of course!) and a full team strip and wobble their way off into the sunset at 19 kph. That stereotype is a stereotype for a reason. Then they get out on the road and they display zero situational awareness, ride three abreast, and generally behave as they do when behind the wheel of their Audi SUV. Again, it happens often enough that its a stereotype for a reason.

    One thing I will say for Christchurch city council - the cycleway network has been improved immensely and the separated, dedicated cycleway is the best incentive to bike ever. And yes, that thing about finding quiet streets? Absofuckinglutely. Also, picking a commute route that avoids fucking schools and those childcare places because the most dangerous driver on the road is a Merivale twat in an SUV with the most precious cargo in the world aboard.

    The only issue I really have with the CCC cycle ways is the ones inside the four aves. Particularly St Asaph which is a clusterfuck. They have also fucked Antigua Street which used to dump me out by the boatshed then across the bridge then along the front of the park.

    aaaaanyway: I am getting a tax refund and I am pretty serious about applying some of it to the 750 and some of it to an ebike conversion.

    edit: I am doing that thing again: Oh - a 36V 250W with a small battery should be enough for commuting. Oh wait?! I can get a 48V 1000W one with a 612w/h battery that will do 70kph? Where do I sign!??!?!
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    +1 to HDC's post concerning the born-again lycra brigade... there's one roadie peleton I've seen around in Wellington who are truly a pack of arrogant riders. Two abreast on Wellie's narrow roads, holding cars up for ages, totally unrepentant when abused while the driver finally gets past. Not pleasant to watch. They're fit, but otherwise match the stereotype - white, monied, competitive as hell, etc etc.

    About ten years back, Stuff published a map showing the location of all the fatal / high consequence traffic accidents. A mate and I went through it and it put him off commuting to work on a pushie. Around half the accidents were car vs bike at suburban intersections.

    This is all non E assist of course... I'd imagine that E bikes simply magnify everything (range, speed, hours riding, usage) and therefore also magnify any risks that the rider might be taking. Caveat: no direct experience yet - but am getting more and more interested in having a go...

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    Mate of mine in Welly, long time road/adventure MTB rider T Boned a car coming out of a car park on his E bike at what he said was 30KMPH.

    He dented the side of the car and cracked the screen as he went over bonnet, car driver was mortified.

    He said the reason was the cycle lane goes both ways and car driver was looking in the direction traffic was coming from.

    Bike was however only slightly damaged.

    Treddle carefully out there.
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    My sister (75) bought an E-bike - (thought it might help her keep up with her group on some of the bigger hills) - saw the chance of passing all the men on a downhill stretch!

    No sweat - unfortunately she canned out through the hedge on the corner at the bottom of the hill - Oh shit moment supreme!

    Almost back riding now as the many broken bones (pelvis etc) and grazes are healing well.

    When I enquired how she was - she said it felt good passing the bastards! - no further comments, she doesn't want to talk about it.

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    Get the facts in right perspective....

    18 million people in a country the size of canterbury. ..
    Everybody goes on their bike....for transport.
    City's are to congested for cars and parking impossible.
    75% of bike fatalities are 65 year old or over...
    25% are on e bikes.....

    Roads to busy for old people on bikes....
    They are not used to this much traffic.
    That's what's killing them.

    Am biking and driving around there right now myself......
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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    Get the facts in right perspective....

    18 million people in a country the size of canterbury. ..
    Everybody goes on their bike....for transport.
    City's are to congested for cars and parking impossible.
    75% of bike fatalities are 65 year old or over...
    25% are on e bikes.....

    Roads to busy for old people on bikes....
    They are not used to this much traffic.
    That's what's killing them.

    Am biking and driving around there right now myself......
    Not only that , Its likely the only country in the world where they actually have more pushbikes than people.



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    ...Christchurch was once known as the City of Cycles and a huge amount of those bikes had the 2 half g carriers securely bolted up on the frame, and just about everyone had their cycle clips around their pants cuff...as many Triumph, Rudge and BSA pushies as their were Raleigh's on the road then...I had a possum skin seat and electrical conduit bashed down the handlebars so I could be like Ronnie Moore, Barry Briggs and Ole Olsson, (and Mauger), with huge wide speedway bars...fuck all cars around then...

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