Engagement With Motorcyclists

[Akzle]

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it would be like herding cats

... easier once you put an ounce of #4 shot in them?

[Akzle]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2BT7_owW2sU

[Jeff Sichoe]

I'll engage if you can:

get the AA to feck off,
the councils to acknowledge motorcycles as a valid if not necessary form of transport in cities,
ACC cover tax only applying to single Class6 license rather than per bike

I fully agree with the last two points but what has AA done wrong?

[Banditbandit]

Some of us rider because it is not safe. Any attempt to make it safer faces resistance from us.

[Madness]

...followed by maybee harassing people at events...

Get Hugh Anderson to do it, he's really really good at it.

[rastuscat]

I'm keeping schtum for the moment but I'm not setting up as a school. Or a shop.

I'm loyal as hell to the school I worked with.

Just chucking ideas around at the moment. I'll add some context depending on how things pan out.

[Voltaire]

Offering a free lesson to buyers is an excellent idea as I bought my first bike from a dealer who offered a free lesson which was just a ride in first gear down a side street from the shop as I had no license. That shop sold more bikes than any other shop in ChCh maybe due to the free lessons offered. This was back in the late 70s. I still think Rastus must miss his old job and maybe setting up his own riding school could be the way to go but it would have to offer a point of difference.

That explains a lot, you should have got "lessons" 2,3,4 and 5.

[jellywrestler]

I'm keeping schtum for the moment but I'm not setting up as a school. Or a shop.

I'm loyal as hell to the school I worked with.

Just chucking ideas around at the moment. I'll add some context depending on how things pan out.

what about offereing to put a go pro on riders bikes, then tell them whether they're going to live or die....

[Banditbandit]

Back in those days there were no riding schools around at least no advertised ones like there is today. So we had to teach ourselves.

That may well be true - it is certainly when I learnt to ride.

But that is no excuse for not going to a riding school NOW!. I've learnt how to truly ride a bike at riding school in the earlish 1980s - about 10 years after I bought my first bike and at least eight years after I got a licence.

what about offereing to put a go pro on riders bikes, then tell them whether they're going to live or die....

For me - no point - they will always tell me I'm going to die ...

[Scubbo]

I fully agree with the last two points but what has AA done wrong?

this https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/new...ving-free-ride

and others which i'm to lazy to dredge up, its an old boys car club, the guys who spend more time polishing their morris marinas than driving --- and curse and try drive into you if you attempt to lane split past them...

NOT advocates for motorcycling even when they pretend to be

[jellywrestler]

Back in those days there were no riding schools around at least no advertised ones like there is today. So we had to teach ourselves..

fuck off, there was always someone keen to help ya, like learning how to root, there was no school for that either, just practicing stinky finger behind the bike sheds

[Paul in NZ]

what about offereing to put a go pro on riders bikes, then tell them whether they're going to live or die....

Whenever anyone points a gopro in my direction on the mountain bike its 100% sure I'm about to fall on my face...

[Scuba_Steve]

I'm keeping schtum for the moment but I'm not setting up as a school. Or a shop.

I'm loyal as hell to the school I worked with.

Just chucking ideas around at the moment. I'll add some context depending on how things pan out.

are you loose lipped enough to define context? i.e. are we talking teaching, discussing, lecturing for this "engagement"

[Akzle]

So what is "truly" riding a bike? No even the riding school die hards on here say about their riding school experience teaching them to truly ride a bike.

just to hazard a guess, it probably involves going around corners without having to get off and push.

[cheshirecat]

If I wanted to engage with motorcyclists, where would I start?

On here? Motorcycle shops? Clubs? Facebook?

The subject would be our safety on the road. Not a sexy subject, and one which isn't sold easily.

Nobody thinks it'll happen to them. The crash. So nobody sees the need to change to prevent it.

Where would someone start?

Need several things.

• FB page - still one of the best ways of social communicating
• Website - go for one of the free ones - Wix.
• Don't bother getting a domain etc, just use as is - it's free if you don't mind ads but then you'll get MC ads which is no bad thing.
• Website will be is a resource repository and main contact point. You'll want imagery but plenty bikers will provide stuff.
• Sticky here.
• Twitter. Pain a butt for some but very effective for immediate goss and news. Quite a wide reach in influential circles
• Engage with non NZ rags some in the UK have excellent resources and battle-hardened

Good luck