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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkH View Post
    I'm dubious about a drone not working.
    Drones are smart and many have GPS, so with co-operation from manufacturers they possibly could refuse to fly in certain locations - that's a maybe and would only work on drones from certain manufacturers and only ones that have GPS.
    Blocking the signal obviously wouldn't work...
    Wrong...

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkH View Post
    Meanwhile, if you aren't a complete idiot - don't fly at any height near an airport. Drones can fly very high
    Sadly the idiots are working hard and proving that information, including flight information on drones sold in NZ (or "should contain info" chinese importers may vary...) are not addressing the issue.
    Secondly, judging altitude visually is next to impossible from the ground. At a meeting today a chap stated he was "at 1500ft above the airfield" when the user of the uav stated he "would have been around 500ft".


    Yes, sensible people can use them quite safely, but the retards are out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Wrong...
    Which bit is wrong exactly?

    I'm genuinely curious about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    As for using one near an airport... forget it.
    And state highways. Not completely impossible that local councils will go down the same track.

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    So..... are you going to actually sit down and watch the hours of footage sometime?
    When the GoPro thing started a mate came round and showed me his helmet-cam footage. Quite interesting for about 2 minutes but then we got bored and watched an Isle of Man repeat instead...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Andy View Post
    So..... are you going to actually sit down and watch the hours of footage sometime?
    When the GoPro thing started a mate came round and showed me his helmet-cam footage. Quite interesting for about 2 minutes but then we got bored and watched an Isle of Man repeat instead...
    Drone footage is only vaguely more interesting than go pro footage, which is generally as boring as batshit.

    Unless something interesting happens, it's not interesting.

    To anyone other than the person who took it.

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    I'm a bit more interested in getting a few photos, I've always been more keen on photography than videography.
    Having said that, I'd probably play around with capturing short video of stuff that seems interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkH View Post
    I'm thinking about getting a drone to take on my adventure tourer on trips around NZ. My plan would be to load the camping gear in the panniers & bag on the rear seat and to put a drone & a D-SLR in the top-box where I could easily get at them whenever I wanted to create some video or photos.

    Thoughts on the idea?
    Be very careful with that DSLR and the vibration from your bike's top box. Would hate to take it out for some snaps and find some delicate internal part had been vibrated to shit.

    I've scrambled eggs, spilt milk and turned cream to butter in a top box.

    (obviously, there's been packaging/packing issues every time I've arrived with a product in a different format to when I departed...)

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    Hey Mark, Swoop is correct. A friend of mine was doing some footage along the North Shore water front, wont say where, but a very expensive drone disapeared very suddenly, never to be found, i will leave it at that. So they can be taken out by very mysterious means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustys View Post
    Hey Mark, Swoop is correct.
    I do understand that it is technically possible to jam radio signals and therefore you could target the particular frequencies used by drones and successfully jam them. BUT - you couldn't block all drone control signals in a 10km radius, or at least not without all home-owners in a 10km radius complaining that their WiFi doesn't work. If you limited the jamming to a much closer radius then you could get away with it, or if you used drone jamming just when a drone was spotted (rather than blanketing an area constantly so no one could fly drones) then nearby home owners would only be without WiFi for a short period of time.

    The DJI Spark uses WiFi and the Mavic Air uses enhanced WiFi - you can't jam them without jamming WiFi because that is literally what they are using for communication.

    The description of how it works seems a bit dodgy. "It takes control of the GPS and sends it home"? It's more likely it would jam the frequencies that drones use for remote control, when a drone loses signal it will generally land or return home, depending on settings used. Taking control of the Global Positioning System doesn't really make sense, in fact not all drones even have GPS. Jamming the control signal makes much more sense, without communication from the operator the drone has to revert to doing what has been set to do, which would get that drone out of the way and stop a drone with a bomb from flying to wherever the operator was trying to fly it to.

    Quote Originally Posted by rustys View Post
    A friend of mine was doing some footage along the North Shore water front, wont say where, but a very expensive drone disapeared very suddenly, never to be found, i will leave it at that. So they can be taken out by very mysterious means.
    I very much doubt that it was jammed. If it lost signal (being jammed isn't the only reason for losing signal) then it would have tried to return to home, if that wasn't correctly set then it could have decided to fly off to a point out of range. It isn't as hard as you might have thought to have this happen, if you don't set a new home position when you take off, then it could be trying to return to a previously set home position - which could be a long way away. If a drone decided to return home to a position that was many kilometres away then it would fly until the battery ran out and then emergency land wherever it was along that flight path. Do you have any knowledge of a ban on flying around the North Shore water front with signals jammed for offenders? An airport is different, you are not allowed to fly near them due to the risk of damaging a plane - they are entitled to take means to down your drone, if necessary and if they can.

    If a drone loses signal, has it been jammed? Not necessarily, there are many ways for a drone to lose signal. A fault in the transmitter or receiver, transmitter batteries going flat, flying too close to a source of interference like power lines or any other electrical thing that generates radio noise, etc.
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    To my knowledge i don't know of any baned area's around the shore, not up with that, but you can guess what else is there though. My mate has a lot of experince flying these things and the drone was not a cheap one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkH View Post
    The description of how it works seems a bit dodgy. "It takes control of the GPS and sends it home"? It's more likely it would jam the frequencies that drones use for remote control, when a drone loses signal it will generally land or return home, depending on settings used. Taking control of the Global Positioning System doesn't really make sense, in fact not all drones even have GPS. Jamming the control signal makes much more sense, without communication from the operator the drone has to revert to doing what has been set to do, which would get that drone out of the way and stop a drone with a bomb from flying to wherever the operator was trying to fly it to.
    Yeah, taking control of the GPS is a little bit bollocks but as a system jammer which either makes them land/return/whatever, I guess it'd be pretty effective.

    I remember reading an article on Slashdot (possibly) a while ago about police officers in China carrying anti-drone rifles to stop curious tourists from looking where they don't want them to.. Probably just rubbish click-bait but hey, whatever..

    I'm still curious about those "follow me" drones.. Has anybody here got/tried one and know how long or how far they can last? Or what sort of speed and agility they can muster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEsch View Post
    Be very careful with that DSLR and the vibration from your bike's top box. Would hate to take it out for some snaps and find some delicate internal part had been vibrated to shit.

    I've scrambled eggs, spilt milk and turned cream to butter in a top box.

    (obviously, there's been packaging/packing issues every time I've arrived with a product in a different format to when I departed...)
    I used to have some pro grade Canon 5DmkII bodies and several L glass lenses including 70-200 F2.8 II. They rode in my tankbag on top of GSXR750 and also in same bag mounted on rear rack of DR650 for many miles trouble free. I did always use an old wool jersey as padding though.
    Only very recently did I break something, and that was a secondary cheap brand mount converter between my Fuji XT-1 and the Canon 70-200 lens while on long off road ride. Some little screws came loose but fixed when got home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkH View Post
    I read something about the DoC land thing, I don't quite get it. Why would there be any issue with flying over DoC land, what is their problem with drones?
    I've been riding out on gravel roads where there are fuck all people apart from the occasional farmer, not really anyone that would kick up a fuss over a drone being put into the air for a few minutes.
    I've been at the local beach and some perverted looking reprobate was flying a drone above. Aside from the annoying buzz and all the hot milfs leaving the beach in droves it created a bigger scene by pissing of the local seagulls.
    They squaked like crazy at the intruder and tried best to take it out.
    Some of us work long hours/shifts/weekends.... when we finally get a day off its often when theres "fuck all people about" so we don't want to finally get to paradise and have some thing unnatural buzzing around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Drone footage is only vaguely more interesting than go pro footage, which is generally as boring as batshit.

    Unless something interesting happens, it's not interesting.

    To anyone other than the person who took it.
    Sounds like some people's use of words too..... like anything in life training is required ..........

    Tell me this isn't interesting footage....

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