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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I haven't found traffic lights anywhere that will go to green ... the very instant the other set of lights go red.
    Even the simplest of intersections have a one second minimum for the all red period, longer at others. Sometimes extended to cater for red light runners

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    Mildly related to the topic, an observation made by my latest trainee. Over the past few weeks, trucking 24/7 across top half of the north island, a trend showed. At least 50% of all roadside stopped cars, as in by HP or Police, seemed to be late model expensive (mostly) European cars. Ditto for at least 50% of all dodgy overtakes, expensive late model Euro cars. Same trend for crashes, as in cars sitting pranged up on side of road or in a paddock...yep you guessed it, late model Euro cars.

    Now neither my trainee or myself are Rhodes scholars, but the trend in this was obvious. Now I can't call this definitive research by any means, but does having a fancy car make a driver believe he/she is above the law, and/or possesses above average driving skills on account of the fancy vehicle? The evidence suggests there may well be, no offence intended

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    Mildly related to the topic, an observation made by my latest trainee ....
    A few years back ... Holden's and Toyota's were the commonest vehicles on the road ... and they were involved in the majority of accidents. The affluence of motorists in any area ... might have more to do with the statistics of vehicle types crashing ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Even the simplest of intersections have a one second minimum for the all red period, longer at others. Sometimes extended to cater for red light runners
    Pilgrim Place, where it exits onto Moorhouse Ave, has a virtually nil all red dwell at the end of the green phase. It's because Pilgrim Place is a short stretch, and nobody get's up much speed.

    Everywhere else has a minimum 1 second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    Mildly related to the topic, an observation made by my latest trainee. Over the past few weeks, trucking 24/7 across top half of the north island, a trend showed. At least 50% of all roadside stopped cars, as in by HP or Police, seemed to be late model expensive (mostly) European cars. Ditto for at least 50% of all dodgy overtakes, expensive late model Euro cars. Same trend for crashes, as in cars sitting pranged up on side of road or in a paddock...yep you guessed it, late model Euro cars.

    Now neither my trainee or myself are Rhodes scholars, but the trend in this was obvious. Now I can't call this definitive research by any means, but does having a fancy car make a driver believe he/she is above the law, and/or possesses above average driving skills on account of the fancy vehicle? The evidence suggests there may well be, no offence intended
    I wonder if all the extra technology in those vehicles is decreasing the drivers attention to the driving task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    I wonder if all the extra technology in those vehicles is decreasing the drivers attention to the driving task.
    No doubt.

    With some it's looking more like a sense of entitlement causing the distraction

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Which is funny, unless of course it was your tea leaves that were identified as canabis. And yes that actually happened.
    I'm a big tea drinker and passed several random chewy swab tests at work plus the proper piss test on recent promotion.
    NONE of the guys who have failed and been fired subsequent to being tested after safety incidents have contested the results... Only know of one case where a person was stood down due to proper medicine affecting the test result....

    I can see a clear difference between the people at my current workplace (many are ex truckies) compared to previous workplaces where there was no drug testing... Yes there are problems and clever buggers can fool the tests apparently but its a start to tackiling the epidemic. Only going to get worse once drug use combines with poor work ethic and DGAF lazy millenials.....
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    Boasting about your excessive Tannin abuse isn't big or clever.

    You should get help.

    Is there a 0800 Quit-Tea number I wonder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    I'm a big tea drinker and passed several random chewy swab tests at work plus the proper piss test on recent promotion.
    NONE of the guys who have failed and been fired subsequent to being tested after safety incidents have contested the results... Only know of one case where a person was stood down due to proper medicine affecting the test result....

    I can see a clear difference between the people at my current workplace (many are ex truckies) compared to previous workplaces where there was no drug testing... Yes there are problems and clever buggers can fool the tests apparently but its a start to tackiling the epidemic. Only going to get worse once drug use combines with poor work ethic and DGAF lazy millenials.....
    The increase in random drug/alcohol testing can show up some weird results. At a previous workplace it took ages for the chap who we suspected of using synthetics, to get sprung. Conversely, some "targeted" random drug testing where the firm was trying to nab a chap who was a heavy drinker, went off the rails. The drinker was forewarned the drug bus was on site by one of his co-workers, called in sick instead, missing the random test. Another driver, outwardly solid, got volunteered for the random test and failed on trace cannabis and got the sack

    Place I work at now does rigorous random testing, well it's not random as such, for the whole crew on an incoming shift get tested with no clue it's about to happen. All good by me

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    Another driver, outwardly solid, got volunteered for the random test and failed on trace cannabis and got the sack
    Nah. It should all come back to impairment shouldn't it? Someone was talking to me about work place drug testing last week and his view was that it has caused a shift from cannabis to other drugs that you have got rid of by Monday. If true it's not the best outcome for the country is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    Place I work at now does rigorous random testing, well it's not random as such,
    A guy I knew was sentenced to a spell in the big house. He was telling me that he and his mates were tested every time testing was conducted. Believing him to be disinterested in drugs I asked why that was. His reply was to the effect that the staff conducting the testing knew that he and his mates didn't use drugs, so they were always selected for the "random testing".

    Sometime later there was a TV news item about drug use in jails. The Justice Dept spokesman said that their random testing regime indicated that the incidence of drug use in prisons was very low. Yeah right!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berries View Post
    Nah. It should all come back to impairment shouldn't it? Someone was talking to me about work place drug testing last week and his view was that it has caused a shift from cannabis to other drugs that you have got rid of by Monday. If true it's not the best outcome for the country is it?
    The topic of impairment is a valid one. Boozed up from last night is impaired, trace amounts of dope from 2 weeks ago isn't. Yet the testing method treats both the same.

    Oh and yes for the use of the synthetic stuff that "flushes out" damn near overnight. The chap I referred to earlier, his demeanour changed over time, paranoia set in, his temper swayed wildly, the circles he socialised in were dodgy, so all the signs were there. Took ages to catch him out though, and it involved stern tactics.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    A guy I knew was sentenced to a spell in the big house. He was telling me that he and his mates were tested every time testing was conducted. Believing him to be disinterested in drugs I asked why that was. His reply was to the effect that the staff conducting the testing knew that he and his mates didn't use drugs, so they were always selected for the "random testing".

    Sometime later there was a TV news item about drug use in jails. The Justice Dept spokesman said that their random testing regime indicated that the incidence of drug use in prisons was very low. Yeah right!
    Oh heck, I knew of one trucking outfit (who I best not name here) where the boss told the lads 4 weeks out when the random drug tests would take place. Lay off the whacky backy, drink lots of water and we'll be sweet...words from the boss

    When I talk about the drug testing in my current outfit not being random, I mean the whole crew that comes in for the next shift gets tested, no exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caspernz View Post
    When I talk about the drug testing in my current outfit not being random, I mean the whole crew that comes in for the next shift gets tested, no exceptions.
    Guy I work with was on a job site (can't remember which Fletcher, Fulton Hogan or some such) where drug testing was taking place, he was there to fix something for 1 of the crews working on site not there to work the site himself. Cause he was on-site he got lined up to be tested didn't matter he didn't work for them, work the site, or plan to be there longer than half hr he was tested as was every other person on-site that day.
    On the one hand it could be argued that testing everyone incl independents/repair services is going bit far but I guess their site their rules right?
    Gotta feel a bit sorry for the company that had to pay 2.5hrs for a .5hr job because of it tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Autech View Post
    There's one at the base of the Kaimai ranges I noticed the other day. Right in an overtaking zone...

    "Safety"

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    Guess who just recieved their first ever speeding ticket and from what camera?

    Only noticed it on the way back so it got me on the way there at a massive 111kms while overtaking up the hill.

    Cunts.

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    if we target people driving when high when we will target the other hordes of road users who even when straight are worse drivers?

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