Lord knows that Me and Katman almost never agree on anything - but Hell hath frozen over, so it would seem.
There's a number of comments in this thread - I'll try and boil them down to commonalities:
1: Tommy Robinson is a Racist.
Now - I've listened to a fair bit of Tommy, it's possible to make the claim if you lift what he says out of context and also lift HIM out of context. He's a working class lad and his word choice can be called careless at times. This does not make him a Racist. I've yet to hear Tommy say something expressly racist. He's talked about certain cultures that are objectively highly patriarchal and treat women (especially Western, non-islamic Women) as less than Prostitutes, these claims are backed by objective facts - if you want to use this as a claim for racism, then you have to argue that reality is racist.
He also talks about all his Black, Muslim and pakistani friends, in fact he has on many occassionals waxed lyrical about his love for the Sikh community in England. I'll end this rebuttal with a picture that paints a thousand words:
Does that look like a Racist?
2: Tommy Robinson could have kept quiet and none of this would have happened.
This claim is a little more nuanced - Tommy's main schtick (in this instance) is that the Rotherham scandal wasn't an isolated incident and that there is an invasive attitude that has seeped into British Political and Policing circles that has resulted in blind-eyes being turned, for fear of the accusation of Racism.
first part to this claim - we need to look at Rotherham:
That's 20+ years - where Silence on pain of "RACIST!" allowed Girls to be raped by Pedophiles (and worse). The key word in that sentence is Silence - Nobody wanted to know or to listen to people who weren't racist and were following the correct paths to address a grievance.It was first documented in the early 1990s, when care-home managers investigated reports that children in their care were being picked up by taxi drivers.[18] From at least 2001, multiple reports passed names of alleged perpetrators, several from one family, to the police and Rotherham Council. The first group conviction took place in 2010, when five British-Pakistani men were convicted of sexual offences against girls aged 12–16
So when all legitimate means of redress have been exhausted, the Masses must be mobilized - this is where the EDL came into being. People were pissed off at authorities in Ivory towers not listening to them, when they knew something was happening. So when the same authorities tell you to be quiet - what logical option is there?
Stand by in silence whilst Pedophiles fuck your daughters with impunity? If any among you could stand idly by whilst such horrors were being inflicted on the most vulnerable in society, then you will have naught but my contempt.
Now, if the powers that be could have an open and honest discussion about Islam, or even just certain parts of Islam and certain cultural aspects that have been imported, If the police were to do their job without any prejudice toward Creed, Colour, Gender, or any other attribute - then at that point, Tommy might be able to sit down and be quiet.
But if you still can't abide by Tommy, have a listen to one Douglas Murray.
3: That what is happening in the UK has complete irrelevance to what is happening over her.
Au Contraire - firstly, since Her majesty is the Sovereign of New Zealand, where the UK goes - NZ invariable follows, secondly - we share a derived Legal system and so anything that is happening in the Legal landscape of the UK is of paramount importance to NZ:
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/domesti...newzealand.php
Thirdly - there has been a direct collusion between the Political wing and the Policing wing - Labour held counties didn't want to upset their labour-voting Islamic community, and so pressured the Police not to act. This is eerily similar to the Inspector Generals report about FBI bias in the Clinton affair. Interesting to note that this has been done by 2 Left-wing parties - the point here is that 2 mature Western democracies have put a hole in a very VERY important wall, separating the Judiciary from the Legislature.Historically, New Zealand courts have looked to the courts of England for sources of precedents in order to apply established principles and rules. Over time, ... the courts have expanded the range of countries from which foreign cases are examined, particularly looking to Australia, Canada, and the United States
Fourthly, Remember when the Police were exempt from fining unlicenced Maori drivers in NZ? I'll grant it's miles and miles behind pedophilia - but even in lil' ol' NZ - we have one of the foundational cornerstones of our Justice system being slowly hammered out of the groundworks. Need I remind you why:
Lady justice stands the way she does - A Sword in one hand, to enact justice. A scale in the other, to weigh the evidence. And a Blindfold across her eyes so that she sees no Race, no Colour, no Gender.
She is depicted that way for a reason - and once we forget that, once we think that it's okay to let Race or gender or colour be a factor in the application of Law, even just a little bit, even with the noblest of intentions - we've started down a very dangerous path. One that I hope we have the good sense to turn around from.
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