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    It's good to see more focus being placed on the issue of "grooming gangs" but they fail to refer to what is happening - it should be called "child raping gangs", as that is what it really is.
    "Tommy Robinson" has been reporting on this horrendous activity for quite some time, yet has been repeatedly closed down because of the topic and (presumably) some high-level people who know about what is going on & fail to execute their duties and prosecute using the judicial process.

    Disgusting, either way.
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    Whilst any such activity by anyone utterly reprehensible. It should also be mentioned that aka Robinson's own mate and co founder of EDL was protected by Robinson having carried out similar activities.
    not to mention multiple members of his organiasations
    https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/01/1...-exploitation/

    Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (AKA Tommy Robinson) has announced plans to hold a demonstration in Telford at the end of January. As well as a march, he intends to screen his self-made documentary ‘The Rape of Britain”, about the issue of on-street grooming allegedly perpetrated by Muslim men of South Asian heritage in the town.

    After several years of legal woes, incarcerations, extended holidays, injunctions and bankruptcy, he is attempting to exploit the pain of survivors of child sexual exploitation (CSE) to relaunch his political career.
    However, Lennon has a long history of failing to condemn the abuse of children by his own friends and supporters. He is no ally in opposing child sexual exploitation.

    There is a very long history of minority communities being framed as a sexual threat by the far right. Whether it is the centuries old blood libel or the characterisation of Jews as paedophiles before the Second World War, attacking African-Caribbean immigrants as rapists and pimps in the post-war period, and now painting Muslims as groomers, the far right have always sought to racialise sexual violence and child sexual exploitation.

    Since founding the EDL in 2009, the issue of sexual violence at the hands of Muslim men – described as ‘Rape Jihad’ – has been a mainstay for Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. However, he himself has an appalling record of confronting paedophilia and abuse within his own team and amongst his supporters. Lennon has consistently ignored or even defended occurrences of these crimes in his own ranks, proving that he is more concerned with attacking Muslims than actually combatting CSE or challenging sexual violence.

    Notoriously, in June 2010 Lennon’s close friend and ally Richard Price was convicted of making four indecent images of children, and possessing cocaine and crack cocaine.[i] The vile images were found on his computer by police after he was arrested for disturbances at an EDL demonstration.

    Far from condemning Price’s crimes, the EDL launched a campaign for his release. Lennon himself wholeheartedly supported Price, claiming he had been “stitched up” and that “Price has no idea how they were on his computer.


    On 4 January 2011, six months after the conviction, Lennon released a statement attempting to distance himself and the EDL from Price, falsely claiming that at “no time has pricey ever been a leader of the EDL.” This was a lie, as on 4 June 2010 Lennon himself wrote that “The EDL have only this “Leadership” just for the record ….. Myself […] and Richard Price, we are the earliest founding members.” Lennon first defended a paedophile, and then lied about his association with him to protect his own and the EDL’s reputation.

    Paedophiles in the English Defence League
    For all its talk of Muslim paedophiles, the EDL was a hotbed of sex offenders. Since its formation, there have been at least 20 members and supporters convicted of child sexual exploitation offences. At least 10 of these were active in the EDL while Lennon was still leading it, and we are yet to find a single condemnation from Lennon.



    Each of the following cases are perpetrators who were active in the EDL while Lennon was still leader:

    Perhaps the most shocking case is that of Robert Ewing, who murdered the schoolgirl Paige Chivers after developing an “inappropriate sexual interest” in her.[iii] He was later prosecuted for abusing two other children in the 1990s.[iv] It later emerged that in 2013, Ewing wrote on Facebook, “Iv taken an interest in the EDL and iv attended a couple of demo’s.”[v]


    Leigh Mcmillan, a senior EDL figure during Lennon’s time as leader who was active in the Lee Rigby campaign, was sentenced to 17 years after abusing a 10 year-old schoolgirl 100 times in the mid-1990s.[vi]

    In 2010, the EDL supporter Brett Moses was given a 12-month prison sentence, suspended for two years, after he plead guilty to sexual grooming.[vii]



    In 2011 John Broomfield, an active EDL supporter, admitted 20 counts of making indecent images of children. After his arrest alongside six others for conspiracy to cause an explosion – charges that were later dropped – the police found 236 indecent images depicting children and babies on his computers.[viii]


    Also in 2011, Michael Coates was charged with a series of sex offences, including two attempted rapes. At the time he was active in the EDL splinter group the North West Infidels (NWI). Their leader, John Shaw, confirmed he had been active in the EDL previously, writing: “He like the rest of us was edl first then NWI.”[ix]


    In 2011, a gang of racists attacked Redbridge Islamic Centre. During the attack they hurled racist abuse at those inside, including repeatedly shouting “EDL”. Later it emerged that Elliot Jones, one of the attackers on that day, was convicted of trying to incite a child into sexual activity.[x]


    Mark “Archie” Sleman was an EDL supporter active in London and Exeter and was known for running the Church of the Templars, which was mainly made up of EDL members. It transpired that he had been imprisoned for nine years in 1994 for the kidnap and rape of a ten-year-old girl.[xi]


    In 2012 the well-known EDL member and regular demonstration attender Matthew Woodward was charged with possession of images of children as young as ten years old, and a video recording of another child.[xii]


    Michael Kinnear was active in the EDL and is known to have attended a demonstration in July 2013 at which Lennon spoke.[xiii] In 2015 he was jailed after police found images on his mobile of a primary school aged girl “performing a type of striptease” and in state of undress.[xiv

    Since Lennon left the EDL in 2013, the group continued to attract support from child abusers and sex offenders, such as Bradley Daniel Alford,[xv] Alan Boulter,[xvi] Pete Gillett,[xvii] Luke Atkinson,[xviii] Dean Chambers,[xix] Bruce Cordwell,[xx] and Paul Whiteside amongst numerous others. Again, we can find no condemnations of these offenders from Lennon.


    More recently, Lennon once again found himself allied with a sex offender. In June 2017, he shared a stage with William Charlton at a rally in Sunderland at an event where the sexual abuse of children was the key theme of the speeches. Lennon praised Charlton, saying ““I wouldn’t have heard of this campaign if it wasn’t for Billy,” adding “That battle has to be fought through every avenue.”[xxi] It later transpired that Charlton was found guilty of distributing an indecent photograph of a child.[xxii]


    Also AKA robinson accused plenty of people wrongly which is why he served multiple jail sentences.
    Robinson is still a self serving scumbag of the highest order.



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    Why is Elon Musk calling to Robinsons release?

    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1542634826414599
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete376403 View Post
    Why is Elon Musk calling to Robinsons release?

    https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1542634826414599
    The fact he's far right would be enough.....



    https://www.brettwilson.co.uk/blog/w...-is-in-prison/
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/...ght-behind-him
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...ooming-scandal




    He also clearly doesn't mind someone with an extensive criminal past....



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    It's good to see more focus being placed on the issue of "grooming gangs" but they fail to refer to what is happening - it should be called "child raping gangs", as that is what it really is.
    "Tommy Robinson" has been reporting on this horrendous activity for quite some time, yet has been repeatedly closed down because of the topic and (presumably) some high-level people who know about what is going on & fail to execute their duties and prosecute using the judicial process.

    Disgusting, either way.
    You have Robinson's part in all this confused. He was interfering with the court cases to the extent that a mistrial would have had to be be declared. That was years ago though.

    The reason he is in jail now is that a Syrian refugee kid was beaten up by some white kids at school. Robinson said he was beaten up because he had sexually assaulted white girls although there was no evidence of this. The court ordered him to stop making these statements but he continued and subsequently even published a movie. The judge said Robinson thinks the law doesn't apply to him and he has been given time in the big house to contemplate the error of his ways. He's where he belongs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    You have Robinson's part in all this confused.
    I do find myself wondering though, without Tommy Robinson's input, would this whole issue have come into such public scrutiny?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    I do find myself wondering though, without Tommy Robinson's input, would this whole issue have come into such public scrutiny?
    Of course. Robinson was interfering with the court cases. The crimes were committed years prior. That the offending went on far far too long is not in dispute.

    The inquiry into the offical response, or the almost total lack thereof. took seven years and it was completed in 2022. It's not like this is exactly current.
    The Conservatives are attacking a Labour MP when in fact they were in power themselves throughout that time.

    Basically it has blown up because Musk, from a position of total ignorance, has decided Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner. The name Tommy Robinson belonged to a famous (infamous?) football hooligan. This is actually a good indicator of what Yaxley-Lennon would like to be doing with his time if he wasn't abusing Muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Basically it has blown up because Musk, from a position of total ignorance, has decided Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner.
    This has nothing to do with Elon Musk.

    The issue that Tommy Robinson has brought to the public's attention is totally unrelated to anything that Musk has decided.

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    An interesting video that explains the position that Tommy Robinson is fighting from.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    This has nothing to do with Elon Musk.

    The issue that Tommy Robinson has brought to the public's attention is totally unrelated to anything that Musk has decided.
    The current drama has everything to do with Elon Musk. Musk recently suggested to Nigel Farage that he include Robinson in the Reform Party. Farage said no, presumably he considers Robinson too toxic. Now Musk is attacking Farage and wants him replaced as head of Reform.

    Musk wants to bring down the British government and replace it with the Reform party. Accordingly he has given Reform a large sum of money. It was reported yesterday in British right wing media sources that Musk is being advised by Dominic Cummings. Cummings was Boris Johnson's puppet master until a struggle developed between Cummings and Johnson's then new wife for control. That could only end one way and eventually Cummings got the arse.

    I remember reading about the doings at Rotherham years ago but there were other northern cities involved. Listening to a podcast last night it appears that it wasn't just in the north, it reached as far south as Oxford. There were potentially hundreds of men involved in the offending and only a relative few were prosecuted. Although prosecutions are still proceeding. The ones previously sentenced to prison are probably out now and the only one we know of that was sentenced to be deported is still living in Britain.

    There were massive failings by the people responsible for the care of the kids: social workers, the police, local councillors, the prosecution service and national politicians. Nobody wanted to appear racist and it seems nobody had their career damaged by their inaction.

    The comment in your clip that any white working class person who complained about immigration would be branded racist is true, even if sometimes it was accurate.

    Robinson didn't really bring anything to the attention of the public. It was already public and he just jumped on the gravy train. He apparently raised a lot of cash from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    There were many coverups. That's an ugly read. The fact that one of the guilty parties who is the subject of a deportation order is still in Britain suggests that the lessons have not all been learned.
    I want to quote this to make a point.

    Let us put politics to one side for a moment.

    This summation, right here, is the reason for the all the anger in the UK.

    Grievous crimes were allowed to be committed, covered up, for the sake of community tensions and the perpetrators were not expelled from the country.

    In order for all of that to happen there has to be tacit complicity by certain groups of people within the establishment.

    It is one thing for the wheels of justice to turn slowly but eventually reaching the point where deportation is the verdict - The British could understand that.

    It is completely another thing for certain special interest groups (like Sir Keir Starmer...) to actively oppose the verdict from being carrried out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Of course. Robinson was interfering with the court cases. The crimes were committed years prior. That the offending went on far far too long is not in dispute.

    The inquiry into the offical response, or the almost total lack thereof. took seven years and it was completed in 2022. It's not like this is exactly current.
    The Conservatives are attacking a Labour MP when in fact they were in power themselves throughout that time.

    Basically it has blown up because Musk, from a position of total ignorance, has decided Tommy Robinson is a political prisoner. The name Tommy Robinson belonged to a famous (infamous?) football hooligan. This is actually a good indicator of what Yaxley-Lennon would like to be doing with his time if he wasn't abusing Muslims.
    Of course?

    The first public reports of this happening go back as far as 2004.

    The EDL was formed in what, 2008

    Then there was the 2011 expose.

    That is 7 years - where nothing happened. There have been a few sporadic arrests, but nothing national has happened since the 80s.

    Put it this way - if in 2001, when the first documented instance where this problem was raised to the Police and councils - if it was taken seriously, the rings investigated and the perpetrators deported - do you think the likes of Tommy Robinson would have arisen, Would the EDL even exist?

    If the British Establishment had done their job, none of this would have happened. Whereas they were too scared of being called Racist - and allowed this to continue.

    So, no - the notion that if Tommy had not been beating the drum, this would have come to public prominence is farcical. Multiple people have tried, multiple times to raise it to the public consciousness and multiple times it has been suppressed and or buried for 'fear of raising community tensions'
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    Last night I came across this ciip. For those of you with short attention spans it's the first five minutes that are important. Piers Morgan I don't like, although once when he dissed an Australian fast bowler the bowler said Morgan wouldn't want to face him in the nets. Morgan did face him for an over in the nets and that took balls other than cricket balls. I dislike Jordan Peterson. He is making a career of inserting himself in the news.

    The part where Morgan quotes the judge as to why Robinson is in jail is the important part. Clue: it has nothing to do with bringing anything to anybody's attention.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYOxaZCJHqU
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    Last night I came across this ciip. For those of you with short attention spans it's the first five minutes that are important. Piers Morgan I don't like, although once when he dissed an Australian fast bowler the bowler said Morgan wouldn't want to face him in the nets. Morgan did face him for an over in the nets and that took balls other than cricket balls. I dislike Jordan Peterson. He is making a career of inserting himself in the news.

    The part where Morgan quotes the judge as to why Robinson is in jail is the important part. Clue: it has nothing to do with bringing anything to anybody's attention.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYOxaZCJHqU
    Curious isnt it that Novara Media conveiniantly omit JBP response to Piers. I mean, it is Piers style to barrage someone with a list of so-called Facts (one of the reasons I am not a huge fan of Piers myself either) - you will note that JBP sits there respectfully, does not interrupt and allows Piers to state his case.

    Now, one might theorize that the reason they clipped it before JBP replies is because in the reply are a number of counter-points that add context and a different view point to the issue - and Novara knows their audience cant have that...

    And for reference:

    Novara has a left-wing editorial position. Bastani, one of the founders of the organisation, has frequently advocated the political idea of "fully automated luxury communism", "a political vision which advocates a transition to post-work society where abundance is held in common",[9] or as Bastani puts it, "the full automation of everything and common ownership of that which is automated".[30] Other contributors, notably James Butler, critiqued this idea on air, arguing that the word 'luxury' could lead to misunderstandings. Ash Sarkar has defined communism as being "about the desire to see the coercive structures of state dismantled, while also having fun".[31]
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