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    If some black people from say South Africa came to NZ to bleat about white people I doubt they would have faced the same venue issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Is free speech dead and buried in this country?

    While I might not agree with everything Lauren Southern and Stephen Molyneux say, I absolutely support their right to say it.

    The New Zealand media have done a great job of telling New Zealanders what they must believe.
    Free speech isn't the issue ... it's (apparently) the "right" to not be offended by anything anyone says ...

    Racial / anti-social statements are ok (sort of) ... but the intentional offence is the bit most find the problem with.

    The more "News-time" these people get ... the bigger the issue gets, as those opposed to what that faction is saying ... then want their views aired in "News-time" as well. Fake news at it's best ... because it's not news that some in NZ hold those same views.

    But the thing that bug's me is ... those that state "I know my rights" ... seldom do. And they bug me to the same extent as those that obey the road rules/laws that suit ... but ignore ones that don't ... but still claim "Their Rights" to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Do you not think there's been a concerted effort to shut down their ability to speak?
    You need to clarify, i.e. a concerted effort by who?
    You are intimating that the NZ media are the culprits, but surely the media is how we all know about them at all, not through an exclusive 700 buck dinner.
    So obviously you can't be thinking the media. So... who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Is free speech dead and buried in this country?

    While I might not agree with everything Lauren Southern and Stephen Molyneux say, I absolutely support their right to say it.

    The New Zealand media have done a great job of telling New Zealanders what they must believe.
    We agree on this.
    The right to free speech is paramount.

    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    The Powerstation, a small family owned venue, was intimidated by the regressive left into cancelling the event. This is the "thugs veto" in action. It had the same effect on the Auckland council who cancelled the previous event due to safety concerns.

    Absolutely disgusting cowardice.
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    So it seems if you are not in a minority group and you are in fact a member of the majority group (while it lasts as the majority in this country or Canada) you are not allowed to express an opinion about your culture any more, else you are terrorised with hate speech and shut down from speaking. So how can those refusing the right for these people to speak even speak of racism or hate speech other than to say that it is coming from their own mouths and that it is what they believe in and are going to rant on about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Andy View Post
    You need to clarify, i.e. a concerted effort by who?
    That's the million dollar question.

    I wonder who got to the owner of the Powerstation in that hour timeframe - between announcing the venue and the event being cancelled.

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    Its BS.

    They can speak anywhere but choose to need a venue. Let me guess, they are charging to get in?
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Its BS.

    They can speak anywhere but choose to need a venue. Let me guess, they are charging to get in?
    They were charging in Sydney:
    VIP Meet & Greet

    Only 10 people will get to spend an extra 15 minutes in the Meet & Greet, plus get a swag of personally signed, awesome merchandise. Ticket includes Early Admission ticket.
    TICKETS @ $499 each.
    Dinner with Stefan & Lauren

    A once in a lifetime opportunity to break bread at an intimate function prior to the main event that evening with not one but two of the most influential Alt Media personalities of our generation. Ticket includes Early Admission ticket only.
    TICKETS @ $749 each.
    Oh and she was banned from entering the UK too.

    More so called 'influencers"...... just making money out of being in the spotlight, worked here...look a the salivating media attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    That's the million dollar question.

    I wonder who got to the owner of the Powerstation in that hour timeframe - between announcing the venue and the event being cancelled.
    Common sense? Public opinion? Morality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Common sense? Public opinion? Morality?
    Are you guessing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Common sense? Public opinion? Morality?
    Common sense?

    Public opinion?

    Morality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    That's the million dollar question.

    I wonder who got to the owner of the Powerstation in that hour timeframe - between announcing the venue and the event being cancelled.
    Ah. Another of your conspiracy theories. I see now. Carry on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Andy View Post
    Ah. Another of your conspiracy theories. I see now. Carry on...
    Well someone (or something) got to them.

    Unless you're suggesting they're just schizophrenic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Are you guessing?
    Of course, same as you.

    We could just ask the source though.

    "they can say whatever they want, but personally, I don't want it in my venue"

    Case closed, the people have spoken, as is their right. The two people with controversial opinion still have the right to speak, they are just choosing not to. I don't see what the fuss is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    We could just ask the source though.
    Yeah, nothing at all odd an out her demeanour.

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