Free speech.

**carbonhed** · 7th August 2018, 17:37

Originally Posted by Graystone

Interesting to note the public reaction to Brash's ban is to organise a protest against the ban. As mentioned before, this is not some simple left/right shit, it is simply the public exercising their right to free speech, as shown by the two canuky fools being told to go fuck their hats, and woman blocking the old cunt from speaking being told to go fuck her hat; this is not partisan.

Horseshit.

**Graystone** · 7th August 2018, 17:45

Originally Posted by carbonhed

Horseshit.

Nah, for realsies, 11am, on the concourse; protest your saggy white man-tits off!

**carbonhed** · 7th August 2018, 18:12

And here's the fucking goober who made the complaint. A Bachelor of Social Work (Hons) no less... colour me absolutely fucking stunned! His letter is as incoherent as you'd expect.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/kardi...0669364995301/

**merv** · 7th August 2018, 20:11

Originally Posted by yokel

"I think we're quite hostile to their views"- some terrorist leader of Aotearoa

Crikey dick

**merv** · 7th August 2018, 20:13

Originally Posted by husaberg

It doesn't seem to be working for the popularity of the national party leader thus far 10% preferred PM. Oh dear.
Even with Crushers getting caught spreading of fake news today according to a stuff shes the national top pic for Nat party leader

That poll was before the fiasco with the Canadians and now the Don Brash thing wasn't it? Surely Labour will lose support over this?

**husaberg** · 7th August 2018, 20:19

Originally Posted by merv

That poll was before the fiasco with the Canadians and now the Don Brash thing wasn't it? Surely Labour will lose support over this?

Yeah bound to result in a 30% shift in support for Simon

**FJRider** · 7th August 2018, 20:46

Originally Posted by Graystone

Interesting to note the public reaction to Brash's ban is to organise a protest against the ban. As mentioned before, this is not some simple left/right shit, it is simply the public exercising their right to free speech

Freedom of speech and freedom to protest are closely linked – But they are not one and the same. Free speech would mean nothing if there was no right to use public spaces to make your views known (but private places can be ...

).

The rights to free speech and protest, along with the right to form and join associations or groups, are found in Articles 10 and 11 of the Human Rights Act.

These rights can be limited by law to protect the interests of others, but only when the limitation is proportionate and necessary in a Democratic society.

So, for example:

the right to free speech will not protect a person who tries to spread hateful lies against another but it will protect fair comment;

the right to protest won’t protect violent gatherings but it will protect peaceful protest.

In recent years we have seen a variety of measures introduced that undermine the right to protest and freedom of speech ...

1. Laws intended to combat anti-social behaviour, terrorism and serious crime are routinely used against legitimate protesters;

2. Broadly drafted anti-terrorism offences of 'encouragement' and 'glorification' of terrorism threaten to make careless talk a crime;

3. Membership of certain organisations can be banned under anti-terror laws even if the organisation is non-violent and political;

4. Hate speech laws have been extended in a piecemeal way to ban ever-expanding categories of speech;

5. Broad anti-terrorism powers of stop and search have been used to harass and stifle peaceful protesters;

6. Protest around Parliament has been severely restricted by laws limiting and overly regulating the right to assemble and protest around
Parliament.

Is this The New Zealand you want ... ??? and is there a (Democratic ??) party in NZ willing to (try to) change/better it ... ??

**Katman** · 8th August 2018, 08:51

Originally Posted by FJRider

Is this The New Zealand you want ... ??? and is there a (Democratic ??) party in NZ willing to (try to) change/better it ... ??

And the vast majority have just sat around allowing it to happen.

And people wonder why the word sheeple gets thrown around.

**Katman** · 8th August 2018, 08:59

Originally Posted by carbonhed

And here's the fucking goober who made the complaint. A Bachelor of Social Work (Hons) no less... colour me absolutely fucking stunned! His letter is as incoherent as you'd expect.

So it appears that all it takes to shut down an event that you don't like is to make some threats of violence.

Unless of course, it's a Weapons Expo.

Then the authorities will go to any length to protect the rights of the arms dealers.

**jasonu** · 8th August 2018, 12:28

Originally Posted by carbonhed

And here's the fucking goober who made the complaint. A Bachelor of Social Work (Hons) no less... colour me absolutely fucking stunned! His letter is as incoherent as you'd expect.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/kardi...0669364995301/

and I'll bet that cunt is first in line at any 'down with whitey' march, protest, poor me bitch session.

**TheDemonLord** · 8th August 2018, 13:14

Originally Posted by Katman

So it appears that all it takes to shut down an event that you don't like is to make some threats of violence.

Unless of course, it's a Weapons Expo.

Then the authorities will go to any length to protect the rights of the arms dealers.

Well, that's a bit of a different scenario

A bunch of mask wearing, middle class student activists may be able to bully organisations concerned with their image to get them to shut down an event.

But put them against a bunch of cold-blooded Killers with access to Military grade weaponary and suddenly the protest turns awfully peaceful...

Funny that...