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    Free speech.

    Is free speech dead and buried in this country?

    While I might not agree with everything Lauren Southern and Stephen Molyneux say, I absolutely support their right to say it.

    The New Zealand media have done a great job of telling New Zealanders what they must believe.

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    They are free to speak. Just as people have the right to protest against them and the managers of the venues have the right to refuse their custom.
    Nobody was stopping them finding somewhere else, they're obviously just quitters, that's all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Andy View Post
    They are free to speak. Just as people have the right to protest against them and the managers of the venues have the right to refuse their custom.
    Nobody was stopping them finding somewhere else, they're obviously just quitters, that's all
    Do you not think there's been a concerted effort to shut down their ability to speak?

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    Maybe the Powerstation got a call from their #1 user, who said they wouldn't be back if they hosted. That might make it a sensible business decision.

    Still a shite decision though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Andy View Post
    they're obviously just quitters, that's all
    Careful now. That allegation arguably could be directed at the venue as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Is free speech dead and buried in this country?

    While I might not agree with everything Lauren Southern and Stephen Molyneux say, I absolutely support their right to say it.

    The New Zealand media have done a great job of telling New Zealanders what they must believe.
    Free speech is alive and well, and the people have spoken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Free speech is alive and well, and the people have spoken.
    Which 'people' would that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Free speech is alive and well, and the people have spoken.
    Some of the people have spoken - sounds like fractional free speech to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Some of the people have spoken - sounds like fractional free speech to me.
    Perhaps the concept is too difficult, free speech does not come with a soapbox. It is about being allowed to say what you wish, other people are free to tell you to fuck off and say it somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Perhaps the concept is too difficult, free speech does not come with a soapbox. It is about being allowed to say what you wish, other people are free to tell you to fuck off and say it somewhere else.
    Fraction in action right there!

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    The Powerstation, a small family owned venue, was intimidated by the regressive left into cancelling the event. This is the "thugs veto" in action. It had the same effect on the Auckland council who cancelled the previous event due to safety concerns.

    Absolutely disgusting cowardice.

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    the place is falling apart, commentators at events are being stopped using the term ladies and gentlemen, blokes can chop their womb brooms off and call themselves a woman, it's getting beyond a joke

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    I have to admit that the first I knew their gig had been shut down
    was when I was doing my usual morning scan of RT propaganda and
    saw:

    https://www.rt.com/news/435074-new-z...ern-cancelled/

    I thought that they'd been identified as "Russian agents". But no,
    that was not the case, which was quite surprising.

    I did have to wonder from the photograph in the article just what
    demographic they hoped to attract in NZ ( maybe it was BYO ),
    and just what topics they intended to talk on. Guess that now we
    will never know.

    I see that Southern has also authored a publication "Barbarians:
    How Baby Boomers, Immigrants and Islam Screwed my Generation".
    That could be interesting reading.

    Wonder if Amazon or GoodReads are stocking copies. Probably all
    sold out. That would just be my luck. [ I can always just ignore the
    parts on Baby Boomers. Likely just a marketing ploy, added in order
    to boost sales within the younger generation ]

    It does makes you wonder what all the fuss was about in the UK and
    Australia, given their multi-cultural societies. No doubt there'll be more
    about it in the press later.

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    She seems nice....
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Is free speech dead and buried in this country?

    While I might not agree with everything Lauren Southern and Stephen Molyneux say, I absolutely support their right to say it.

    The New Zealand media have done a great job of telling New Zealanders what they must believe.
    100% agree.

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